Most tend to come out of the closet after highschool and I was wondering why? Were you afraid of being ridiculed by your classmates? So At what age did you realize were gay and why didn't you come out the day you found out? I made coffee
Some claim that little children are born with an ambiguous sexuality, and that it does not fully crystallise until later. I do not know if this is true. Although I never had any sexual feelings at a young age, I used to think both certain girls and guys were good looking (even being a little jealous!). But I think the sexual attraction began to solidify between the ages of 6 to 9. I can imagine for certain unfortunate boys with an overly strong mother, and a weak or absent father, during these critical years of development, it could turn them to the dark side.... With females, it is just the opposite, we often see them coming from working class backgrounds where the little girl is brought up in a rough environment and involved from an early eage with men's work. Of course, no doubt there is both a genetic and environmental component, and certain children may be born much more susceptible than others.
LMAO! What, nobody's gonna notice that the header on this topic is a loaded question? How long has it been since you stopped beating your wife?
There's a difference between having certain attractions, recognizing that you have those attractions, learning that those attractions are strange or different, identifying by those attractions and then "coming out of the closet". I can't pinpoint a certain point in time where I just discovered I was gay. I've had the feelings for as long as I can remember having feelings about sexuality at all. I thought girls were pretty and all, but I never had a sexual attraction. Ballpark is early teens when I had and acknowledged I was gay. I didn't come out until I was almost 17, and even today I'm only "out" to specific people. It's not something I announce to everyone upon meeting them and there's still some family I'm not out to. why did it take me so long? Fear I guess... No kid wants to be different, particularly different in such a way that peers often respond negatively. My family is mostly Mormon and I had no idea how they would respond. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't. After a while, my desire to go out, meet some other gay people, go on dates and jus generally be honest and stop lying to people finally got me to come out. Others take much longer to come out. I can't speak for everyone. I had a fair amount of support from my immediate family and friends, making me more willin g to come out. Others who live in a less supportive more stigmatized environment may take much longer.
Actually a person's sexuality is set when they are born whether or not they have it in their minds yet. GOD gives us physical proof of which team we are on right away so there can be no confusion. Culture is more of a factor than Environment. A person can grow up in a wicked environment but still come out a level headed person. But a culture can be imposed on a individual making it harder for them to differentiate things.
This young child will be socialised out of this orientation. [video=youtube;_wkiovBGq1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wkiovBGq1w[/video]
You may be correct that GOD (or nature) has given physical proof of sexual orientation, but we may not be talking about the same physical structure. We have substantial reason to suspect one or other given sexual orientations given its correlation with specific visible structures (i.e. a penis or vagina), but this is not proof that any and all structures related to sexual orientation and identity are homogenous. The idea that people and all of their physical structures fit neatly into two mutually exclusive sexes is a myth.... it's certainly common and reinforced by society's perception that we will fit everyone into these categories, but it's certainly not universal.
I'm only 71 so I guess there's still time. Actually, once I'm safely dead I will probably be outed by a gay activist on this forum and the Democrats will have me voting for Democrat candidates for at least thirty years.
Not me at all, I was just presenting research on biological differences between homosexuals and heterosexuals done by others. Sounds to me like you won't even consider the possibility, in which case there is no need for further discussion. Toodles.
It's a reason for that. Because Scientists spend countless hours trying to un-prove things that have already been proven, which makes me discount them even more. Because they are literally dying to un-prove things. things such as this topic. So just because a Scientist or Doctor "claims" something doesn't mean I swallow their findings hook,line and sinker. They are usually more wrong than they are right, but they will never let those stats get out to the public.
It's funny, you speak of the virtue of healthy skepticism in your signature, yet you criticize the skepticism that is the nature of science. Skepticism is built into the scientific method, and is why they are constantly trying to test and disprove things. Does "healthy skepticism" only apply to challenging the government, while dogma should rule our understandings of our nature and selves? No, the dogmatic belief that God created man to be with woman and the two should never be confused is not proof of anything. In fact, it is patently proven false through manifestation of sexually divergent mental and physical attributes inconsistant with the notion of a sexual dichotomy. This fact is well documented in various forms of hermaphrodites and intersexual individuals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohermaphroditism There is no reason to believe that sexuality must be defined purely by the presence of a penis/vagina, or the presence or absence of a Y chromosome. These features are just one part of the development, and doesn't always mesh with what happens in other parts of the body.... or even the same part of the body in some cases.
Absolute truth need not disproving. No need to dig iniquity on those things that are abosute. is mankind trying to disprove breathing, NO, wyh? because he knows absolutey that if he tries he'll die. No, the dogmatic belief that God created man to be with woman and the two should never be confused is not proof of anything. In fact, it is patently proven false through manifestation of sexually divergent mental and physical attributes inconsistant with the notion of a sexual dichotomy. This fact is well documented in various forms of hermaphrodites and intersexual individuals.[/quote] Sexual divergance comes from free will, not GOD. one chooses to divert. so if the order is set before you and you turn from it, that's not GOD's choice, that's yours. Would you rather GOD not give us free will and he made us all mindless beings that needed him to physically, mentally move us around? that's no fun. so he made us all free moving sentients. that's fun. the sight test is always a good barometer for anything you wanna know in life. You wanna know if that QB can throw, watch him throw. You wanna know if that dog will hunt, watch him throw. You wanna know is she is really a he, pull her pants down. Everything is not in-depth biological science.
Due warning to anyone who wishes to follow this link, it is highly graphic, showing nudity, relevant to the conversation at hand: "the sight test is always a good barometer for anything you wanna know in life." http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Hermaphrodite_genitalia_restoration.jpg Just because you can't see it with your naked eye doesn't mean it's not real.... you, as a religious person, should understand this among all people. Unless of course thing thing which you can't see contradicts the belief you have about another thing you can't see. Fortunately, in his case we can see it quite plainly in the linked photograph above. Seeing is believing, yes? "Everything is not in-depth biological science." Some things are. And some things are as superficial as a visible penis and vagina on the same person.
I agree that the question is not quite proper as presented. I have a better question for the male homosexuals here: at what age did you decide you wanted to be anally penetrated?
Why not? People aren't necessarily male or female. This fact is not necessarily dependant strictly on the presence of a penis and/or vagina. If you can have a penis AND vagina, then it stands to reason that other parts of the body can also develop in a way inconsistent with sexual dichotomy. The penis and vagina are only the most visible differences seen between men and women. Other differences are much more subtle and inconspicuous, effecting our immune systems, bone structures, brain development, muscle and skin tissues... Just about everything in our body. If a person can have a penis and vagina, it stands to reasons that other parts in the process of sexual differentiation can develop in unexpected ways.
At what age did you turn Straight? Citation for this assertion? I won't presume to speak for anyone else on why they waited until after high school - if in fact they did. I personally did not. I came out to a few friends in high school (age 17). My mother figured it out after snooping through my stuff and outed me to the rest of my family (age 18 ). It would have been a "more (*)(*)(*)(*), different day" situation for me. My parents eventually put me in a private religious school for my own protection (and to keep me from making good on a threat to drop out if I was forced to attend one more day at my public school). Took a long time to connect the dots. I could give you the long-winded explanation for why, but I shan't waste my time. I suspect few people have the attention span or sincere interest in the topic it would take to get them to spend their time reading it. As for when, can't say I remember ever not being attracted to the same sex. Had crushes on other boys as early as first grade (age 6), long before I developed an interest in sex with the onset of puberty. When did I finally put the puzzle pieces together and see the whole picture, including understanding that what I was feeling had a name? Age 16. Why do you think I should have? Regardless, the answer to that is quite simple: societal stigmatization of homosexuality.
Why do you assume that all male homosexuals wish to be anally penetrated? Are heterosexuals universally interested in only one form of sexual pleasure? The answer to your question is that I'm not going to discuss the details of my sexual likes/dislikes on this forum. It's not information that anyone is entitled to, and it's also probably a violation of forum rules, not to mention etiquette. All I will say on the matter is that you're way off target, and leave it at that.
Actually, I have a better question: Why are some heterosexuals obsessed with the sex lives of gay people?
Thank you for acknowledging my post. No one responded to my question in another thread: what does a gay man fall in love with? I'm trying to understand anything about how your mind works. Other than that indelicate question above is there any characteristic that is uniquely indigenous to gay males?
