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  1. Doug1943

    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think you're on to something there.

    High-risk sports, like mountain climbing, (I can't think of any other in that league, but there are medium-risk sports, like scuba diving and sky diving) are almost of necessity something for the well off.

    But I believe there is something in almost all young males, something biological, which inclines them towards risky actions. There is also something, not necessarily the same thing, which gets in the way of young people, or young males, considering the possibly-bad consequences of their actions. This extends to things which don't put them at risk (except from society) but puts other people at risk: years ago I found the teenage sons of my nextdoor neighbors firing their air-rifles in such a way that if the pellet was not interrupted in its flight by a tree branch -- i think they were shooting at a squirrel in the tree behind their house -- the trajectory of the pellet would bring it down in the middle of our village. They just hadn't thought about it.

    But the rite of passage is probably tied up there in some way as well.

    The thing about military service -- even sub-military, like ROTC -- is that it puts you in a situation where you've publically made a statement that you are willing to take risks, even extreme ones; it rewards you for doing so because society approves of it (well, okay, not the people trying to destroy society) -- I suppose it's now nearly a criminal offense to talk about the effect of a uniform on the female sex, especially as they're now wearing the uniform as well -- and without really exposing you to much risk, it tries to provide a simulacrum of risk, and sometimes more than a simulacrum of hardship, in your training.

    And in a way, military service is an expression of the best of the socialist ideal: putting the interests of society -- or a part of it, your country -- ahead of your own personal interests. Perhaps that's why this man won the Distinguished Service Cross -- he had found the right way to express his socialist ideals.
     
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    Makes you a virile, attractive sort of a sperm donor.
    ( not sure about whether intelligence comes into it but young males think they are invincible).
     
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    Yes. There is a special part of their brain which whispers "It can't happen to you." As you get older this part withers away.
     
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    I don't think thay risk taking is correlating with low intelligence at all. Taking risks is what helped us evolve as humans, we just have no outlet for that now. People don't need to hunt a wildabeast with a spear so they dangle across buildings.

    Also, to be honest, some of those things aren't risky at all with a proper amount of skill. I could do pull ups off the side of the empire state building and have a 0% chance of death.
     
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    Well, it's an empirical question and I don't have the data. I probably should change "risk taking" to "making impulsive moves", which, when I read about crime, seems to be the case.
    On pull-ups off the side of a building, you're probably familiar with this poor fellow?
     
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    I was in several of the Richard Dawkins Ph. D. forums for many months.....
    one of the really polite Admins there told me that my idea of G-d / YHWH evolving and learning
    and inventing an Adam and Eve pair, (or perhaps five Adam and Eve pairs as Edgar Cayce asserted)... was technically
    a branch of Atheism..........

    Polite Admins like that are somewhat rare... and other Admins and Moderators soon got rid of me because I was annoying to debate with......



     
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    If you are ever feeling in need of scourging, I suggest you visit the site called 'Friendly Atheist', and express the slightest disagreement with these people, in the most civil and conciliatory terms. Just one of the two words in their site title is accurate. Your screen will catch on fire.
     
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    Yup!!!!! I can sure identify with that!
     
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    And I'm an atheist myself, as I make clear to them. But some of these kids (and I suspect they're all not long out of, or in, or maybe have yet to enter, college) are really really angry. I feel like admonishing them to limit their communications to "Yea, yea or Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil", but that would enrage them even more, not that any of them would get the reference.

    What they specialize in on that site is stories about Christians caught violating sexual mores, not just Christian ones but general ones. I think it's kind of soft pornography for them.

    My favorite thread there was one which said that all mass murders in the world are caused by patriarchical religions, like Evangelical Christianity. Leaving aside that many killers' problems probably started precisely because they grew up in a home without a 'patriarch', I don't think the poor Christians, nowadays, could even get a qualifying race for the mass killing contest, when compared with another religion whose name starts with "I".
     
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    Oh yeah....... quoting the Bible would really trigger them!!!!

    I'd be careful though.... some Atheists may perhaps be Theistic Luciferians who have perfected astral projection and might come after you in a higher invisible dimension of space - time????

    A guy named John Ramirez gives a neat explanation on youtube of how he did that back in his Satanist days before he became a Christian.
     
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    Yikes! Aren't those the sort of people who go in for a certain kind of heavy metal, and when enough brain cells have been destroyed through listening to it, go down to the local elementary school and thin out the first five grades with their AR15 or AK47?

    Don't want them coming after me!

    But I reckon some of those young Lefty ladies on that forum could give them a fair fight. Those gals start giving off lethal gamma rays when you disagree with them on something, from the Right anyway. Reminds me of the Terror during the French Revolution.
     
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    Yup...... that is them!

    Are they ever in for a rude awakening if they eventually find out that Satan was really more so in the mind set of Stanley Milgram Ph. D. than the total predator that they were assuming based on the the depictions in the media...... and in churches!

    After all... "the children of this world are wiser in their generation than the children of light."
     
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    Stanley Milgram???? Whoa ... I tell my tutees about his famous experiment -- and the later critques of it -- what should I also tell them about him?
     
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    I could be wrong.... but putting the idea into the gifted Luciferian community that Lucifer might actually be
    a big fan of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus but......... perhaps he wants to drag humans down further and further into
    an attitude of sympathy for the Devil..... so his temptations that we hear so much about could be similar to the
    directives by the authority figures in the Milgram Experiment?????

    If so.... then Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan would have the most contempt for his most obsequiously obedient followers which......
    would make repentant former Satanist John Ramirez........ the type of person that Lucifer has the most admiration for?????

    This brings us back to the question of... is it better to have somebody love..... or their respect?
     
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    Welcome. I was a rock climber in my youth. I cut my teeth on the sport in the Garden of the Gods, Colorado. I have been in every state and 4 continents. I don't see the beauty in North Dakota but I agree that the other three have their own beauty. I remember when decades ago I drove from Eastern Montana (a desolate place) into North Dakota. The border town called Bowman had a sign greeting drivers with a sign announcing gas, food, lodging and trees. I hadn't seen a tree for 300 miles.
     
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    I don't believe in atheism. :razz:
     
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    Love the netflix show with the center of the show being a charming Lucifer.
     
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    No Netflix support here.
    I like changing channels, not pulling up a program. :rant:


    And I do miss, Lucifer on Fox.

    Suggest the ole movie,
    "The Devil's Disciple" Douglas, Lancaster and Olivier too.
    Some devilishly good parts in there as to convert a preacher man.

    And the very ole,
    "Devil and Danial Webster" is worth a view.
     
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    I find them to be a very friendly and intelligent group. As does almost everyone. I think you just made that up. If you didn't, I'm sure you can point to some specific examples.

    I'm guessing you're not telling the truth with the "all" thing.

    Second, your logic is bad. "Having a father in the house" is not the same as "patriarchical religion. And Islam is a patriarchical religion. If that's an example of the logic you used there, it's no wonder you got shredded.
     

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