Atheist prayers can be barred by House chaplain, appeals court says

Yes, an interpretation which is not legally binding.

Which might be interesting, had you quoted anything in the Constitution.

Yes, and it's not legally binding - or even, for that matter, authoritative ipso facto.

You think I don't know that?

More accurately, your argument is entirely heedless of the Constitution.

 

Ummmm why does the House Chaplain or anyone else think that someone who believes that there is no god would be praying?

 

Joe Pesci

 

That is an opinion and not a prayer.

 

No it is wise counsel.

 

Dodging my question. Why do they have to be placed on government property? There is a plethora of churches and synagogues, and mausoleums throughout the country. What is the need and purposes of those groups who want displays on public property too? If you want to promote your religious faith do so you YOUR property with your dime. I defend your right to do so.

If you can't discuss the matter in a civil and reasoned manner I have no interest.

 

Well what are the Christian parts and what are the Christian parts of the Constitution which is our governing document?

And try again.

What about my "source of inalienable rights"? What principle in the DOI?

 

You'd do better to ask someone who made any such claims, don't you think?

Try what again?

I don't answer insolently idiotic questions, sorry for any inconvenience.

 

Well you said atheist words of wisdom are not found in the DoI even though I made no such claim, so what was your point then? Do you agree neither are Christian?

You brought them up not me, try again.

What about my "source of inalienable rights"? What principle in the DOI?

 

Evidently you find plain English incomprehensible, so the conversation ends here.

 

For the good of the country. A Christian nation is a better one than an atheist nation.

"A large majority of Americans hold a bleak outlook on the state of morality in the United States, as 72% said the nation’s moral values are “getting worse,” and only 20% said that moral values are “getting better,” according to a recent Gallup survey.

The poll specifically showed that Americans who attend church weekly, are married, or are Republican, were the most negative about the country’s moral direction. But even Democrats, people who attend church infrequently, and the unmarried had high negative outlooks about the nation’s moral values."

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...hink-country-s-moral-values-are-getting-worse

 

which is an opinion.

 

Moral values are not based on a faith, but on the values a person holds and has been taught and for that it does not need faith

 

God is NOT mentioned in the Constitution!

Science IS mentioned in the Constitution!

We have a SECULAR government BECAUSE the Constitution protects individuals FROM religion.

 

false
that is not the reason
the gubmint is chartered to insure religion stays out of gubmint
however it gives lip service to the matter and enforces gubmint religious views on mormons forcing them not to marry more than one wife, and christains to bake gay cakes
the US gubmint is religious.

 

I'm gonna be a dick here, but the fact is, we're ALL agnostic.

Y'all can bullshit yourselves about that, sure people have those beliefs, of any religion or none, but since it can't be proven either way, we're all freakin' agnostic, like it or not; in a technical sense we are anyway.

 

its not the inability to prove it that makes one an agnostic, its neither believing in nor denying the existence of G/gods that makes one an agnostic.

 

What makes you think you are more moral that me? What morals and principles are you claiming are unique and indicative of Christians that I do not share?

 

Evidently even you don't know what you were talking about.
Again what are the Christian parts of the DoI and especially the Constitution.

 

""heed the counsel of the governed, to seek the wisdom of all citizens and to honor the enlightened wisdom and the profound courage" of the founders of American government..."
That is not opinion that is wise counsel else a preacher urging legislators to look to a god for guidance is just opinion too.

Tell me do you disagree with it or believe it is wise cousnel?

 

~OR~ Both...either...same damn thing.

 

You seem to be ignoring the fact that as public property, it does belong to you. You are part of the public.

Are you now saying that in specific cases you support the right to use your property as you wish while denying that right in others cases?

 

Not me individually, perhaps you missed that part. Can I go build a new house of public property and live there? Can a start a business and place it on public property?

So again why is it necessary for some Christians to insist symbols of their religious faith be placed on public property when there are AMPLE places they can place them in public views?
Are you claiming you cannot practice your religious faith unless you place displays of it on public properties?

 

Personally, I have no religious faith and am somewhat offended by their public property display.

As for building on public property, remember the secular laws (man made) are the ones denying it. There is no actual reason for denying it.

 

I don't agree.