Attorney General shoots down Dominion conspiracy theory

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  1. ECA

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    In other words you have no evidence. That’s all you had to say. You have no evidence. Got it.
     
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    Many of Trump allies have been convicted or they pled guilty stemming from the Russia investigation. The Russia factor is far from fake.
     
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    Would be nice to see the facts behind the AG's position. Note he said "no election fraud has been discovered that would change the fact that Biden clearly won." He did not say "no election fraud has been discovered." This should be of great concern for anyone who cares about the rule of law and the integrity of our elections. The takeaway: Breaking the law "a little" is OK. Driving a few ballots across state lines is just fine... merely a few thousand dead people receiving ballots is nothing to worry about... Well, great! I'll just pay my taxes "a little."
     
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    He claims they "haven't uncovered anything." How hard did they look? Honest question.
     
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    Yes he is a liar and yes it is very apparent that he started to "change his tune" after it was apparent that Trump lost the election. So yes as tomsaid he knows that he will be vulnerable to scrutiny for any misdeeds he committed while AG. Did he commit a crime when he interfered for Trump in the Flynn case.
     
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    The Trump Giuliani Schiests on anyone who tells the truth.
     
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    Good question. Some of the attorneys, namely Powell/Wood working on fraud claims say that DOJ hasn't even looked at anything they have gathered. However, there are dozens of independent attorneys working separate cases. Don't know the answer to your question.
     
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    Nobody knows the answer to my question. And that's my point. We have NPR, CNN using phrases like "President Trump makes false claims of election fraud... falsely asserts election stolen..." When the effing claims are not even investigated.
     
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    According to Trump, the evidence of massive fraud was overwhelming, it's everywhere. So if that's true, he wouldn't have to look very hard. He could also check into ALL the evidence that was filed in all the court cases that alleged fraud. It should have been a slam dunk.
     
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    Media has gotten far worse over the last 4 years. They're blatant propagandists and liars now.

    Example: CNN just this week published "Breaking News" that China lied about the virus all the way back to December. Imagine how completely uninformed and misled anyone is who only listens to CNN.
     
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    I have not seen a statement that that's what happened. Barr simply dismissed the allegations out of hand it appears.
     
  12. PARTIZAN1

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    So do you wish that the founding fathers did not bother creating the Constitution because they were "only" creating the Constitution to " form a more Union". They knew and admitted that the Constitutution was not perfect but that we need ton strive toward perfection. The founders created the provision of amendments because they knew that the Constitution would need to be tweaked from time to time. If the founding fathers were arrogant enough to think that the initial Cinstitution was perfect they would not have added the amendment process.

    Yes there was nothing found that would change the outcome. Nothing wrong wi that statement. The election process is like the Constitution process to strive for a more perfect election.

    So if something is not perfect but over all safe and good do you want to throw it out just because it is not perfect? Example the vaccines that are some to be given to the American people are 95 % effective not 100 % so are you saying to not bother using a cines unless theybare 100% effective? So we wait until year 7, 147 when we may have a vaccine that is 100 % effective? That would be good but we all. Ah be dead by then and some Aliens may land here and figure out what we were trying to do and then shake their tentacles and what a bunch of foolish Trump fans who expired out of stupidity.

    You know no medication is 100. % effective for 100% effective for % of the people so are you saying do not use medications?
     
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    Alt-reality.
     
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    What? These cases get prosecuted and the offenders get punished. What exactly are you expecting to happen?
     
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    In case you didn't hear me the first time: WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THE FACTS BEHIND THE AG'S POSITION. There, I burned your straw man.
     
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    I'm expecting the legal process to work. Whether the fraud is enough to sway the election or not, we are supposed to want to know the truth.
     
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    Sorry but saying he hasn't seen it does not mean it does not exist. It may not mean anything beyond we don't want the perps to rabbit before we pounce.
     
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    You are too late I saw through your smoke screen. What facts are there when something such as fraud does not exist. So you want the AG to produce evidence of some that does not exist.

    If I say that the Tooth Fairy does not exist you are telling me that I need to,produce the Tooth Fairy as proof that she dies notbexist.
     
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    I don't believe the DOJ was going to publicly reveal their investigative methodology. However the DOJ has quite an investigative arsenal at its disposal and again, if the evidence was so overwhelming as Trump would like everyone to believe, the point I made stands. Barr is so far up Trump's orifice that it would stand to reason he would do everything in his power to support Trump's claims if he could.
     
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    But there is no reason to withhold evidence or the results of investigations from the public in this instance. The public deserves to know what is happening with their election.
     
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    The attorney general clearly is not a moron, and is not going to claim widespread election fraud if there is not such a thing
     
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    You keep building the straw men and I’ll keep burning them down. Go back and re-read the thread. Carefully.
     
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    Correct. So back to my point then. If there was evidence of massive election fraud, it would have been splashed everywhere, either by the 30 or so lawsuits or the DOJ or the FBI or exposed itself easily. So by extension, there is no evidence and that's very obvious by now except to those who live in the land of Trump's delusions and are desperately hoping there is.
     
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    The legal process is working just fine. People have been arrested, and I hope they throw the book at them. What else are they supposed to do?
     
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    He did no such thing. The judge agreed with his recommended sentence of Stone, who in the end got it commuted(to his disapproval BTW) by the President. Therefore it wasn't abuse, but a proper lever of justice. Levers of justice need not be persecution, something that the crossfire hurricane team never understood.

    And the evidence in the Flynn saga needed to be turned over by COURT order, that the council ignored said order made it so that the DOJ had to step in and actually follow through on the order. I agree with the President's full pardon of the general, I only wish it could have communicated in effect that no crime was actually committed.

    I do not think advocating for diplomacy is a crime, and if it is a crime I want it equally applied to a Biden diplomat when they change or act on their foreign policy initiatives.
     

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