Baldwin says he doesn't feel guilty for 'Rust' shooting: Someone else 'is responsible'

You just have to cut the disinformed more slack. Most of them mean well.
You will be missed.

 

The likes of you supports the idea that any citizen can give away a gun to a person who is not allowed to have one, and pay taxes to the police to make sure those people get arrested the moment they get their hands on the guns.... and jaw drop that you don't get a support to place a cop behind every tree by me.

 

Proof? Don’t worry I know you are just making this up.

 

You're sure are showing me. lol

 

I'm not really sure if you actually believe the Nonsense you spew or what. I certainly don't believe any citizen has the right to give away a Gun to a person who's not allowed to have one, because the LAST! person I'd want handling a Gun is an untrained Liberal that has absolutely no common sense handling firearms, that's how people end up dead. If you she was still alive, I'm sure Halyna Hutchins would agree. Alec Baldwin will be celebrating Christmas with his Family eating a wonderful meal and probably drinking EggNog spiked with Whiskey, while his VICTIM! he shot dead Halyna Hutchins gets to spend her Christmas buried beneath the Cold Damp Earth for eternity.

 

I don't think this should be possible with anybody who can't handle a gun, but it's not against the law now is it? You can thank the GOP and the NRA for it that gun laws are so lenient.

1) They actually paid people to make sure the prop would function the way it did. And that person is not the actor. We all know this.
2) This happened before and the actor who killed B. Lee wasn't prosecuted at all. They settled this out of court with the production company.

GOP supporters are just on a witch hunt on this.

 

IMO, absent some showing of malicious intent the civil courts should handle what appears to have been an accident.

Willful negligence can be a crime, but I think that would be a stretch in this case based on what we know so far.

https://www.upcounsel.com/willful-negligence

 

Balwin would get more sympathy if he wasn't such a judgmental hater.

Uh oh. Search warrant for Alec Baldwin’s phone issued.

“From the beginning of this entire mess, I’ve been of the opinion that this truly was just a horrible accident caused by a cascading series of gross failures in safe firearms handling procedures. At most, I assumed that Baldwin might have been accused of gross negligence by failing to check the weapon and the ammunition himself upon being handed the revolver. I still can’t imagine how he could be culpable beyond that, but perhaps the investigation has revealed information that we’ve not been given yet.”

But, that's why we have investigators and dispassionate trials to weigh the evidence rather than exonerate or convict by fake news press release.

Well, they did.

 

Maybe you could show me something from 1974?

 

Did Baldwin receive training on how to inspect his "prop gun and blanks?" If he wasn't then he isn't legally responsible.

 

If he didn't receive the proper training then he is responsible he is the executive producer. Do you believe this is the first movie or show he as ever fired a weapon?

Tell me if you and some friends were hanging out and one of them handed you a gun and told you it was empty and as a joke you should point it and shoot it at another buddy and you smiled and said YEA and then you did and it fired and killed that buddy do you think you wouldn't be charged with a crime?

Why we are talking NOW and not the military.

 

Apparently, some of this article is "new"...

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme...-to-know-details-search-warrants-alec-baldwin

 

There is no clause in the law suggesting that is true.

 

I made a post on this article already.

 

The upside to all this is that at least Baldwin hasn't been shooting his mouth off lately.

 

Here is the Section that he COULD be charged under:


Code Sections NEW MEXICO STAT. ANN. § 30-2-3
What is Prohibited?
A killing which occurs under any of the following circumstances is involuntary manslaughter:

• While committing a crime which does not amount to a felony
• While acting in a reckless manner which may cause the death or another person
• While committing any other act which may cause the death of another person in an unlawful manner

Penalties Voluntary manslaughter is a fourth-degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in prison and up to $5,000 in fines.

 

It is the responsibility of the armorer to ensure all actors handling guns are properly trained in the safe handling of the gun. If not the armorer then who would provide the training?

 

While it may be their responsibility as a business function to do those things, the legal liability of handling the weapon is up to each person. Movie making is a business like any other, training is their own concern.

 

If you look to the right on your keyboard, there should be a button that is wider than the letter keys. It probably has the word "Enter" on it. Would you mind pressing that button when you go off on these tirades, please?

It's hard enough to read all that negativity without adding bad formatting to the mix.

Thanks in advance.

 

He probably does have a big ego. I don't know. I don't follow celebrities, but I feel confident in telling you that it is impossible for a sane person to kill someone and not care. It is extremely traumatic to take a life, even when it's justified. That's why, historically, executions required three men. All of them would shoot the person sentenced to death but none of them knew which shot was fatal.

I've heard rumors that Baldwin is a jerk but that and not caring about taking a life accidentally and miles away from one another.

 

Ark, I have to partially disagree with you on this one, man.

You are correct in that "it is not the actor's responsibility to ensure the guns used on the sets are safe."

However, outside the scope of the "official" job titles and where responsibility lies, Baldwin had a moral obligation to check the weapons he handled. All performers should do that as a matter of protocol. I don't really understand why that isn't already a rule required by their insurance providers.

 

We'll see.

 

For the same reason that a gunner cannot be held responsible if a shell explodes in the barrel and kills his colleague.

This thread is so hypocritical.

The only reason the right is talking about this tragic accident is because Baldwin was impersonating Trump on SNL.

Chuck Norris would have been in his shoes, the Trumpists would have wanted the gunsmith on set to be crucified.

 

Well, that makes my point. There is a chain of custody and official rules about how those matters are handled, but, at the end of the day, adults are responsible for their behavior and it doesn't sound very responsible to me for anyone (I don't care about his politics or whatever they are clutching their pearls about now) of sound mind and body to NOT check a weapon they are handling.

In fact, this is why it bothers me so much when police officers caught up in questionable shootings claim they thought they had their taser. A loaded weapon and a taser feel completely different. Unless the adrenaline is pumping so fast they lose all senses, there is no way to mistake one for the other. Admittedly, Baldwin probably doesn't have that experience, but, again, there were many things he could have done to ensure something like that couldn't happen and the most obvious thing is checking a weapon or asking for guidance to do that from a trained professional on set.

Surely, that's not surprising to you, Ark. Remember all the comments about black and brown people not obeying police directives so injuries and deaths are to be expected are the same people that have made Ashli Babbitt into a saint overnight.

Spoiler alert: There is always a double-standard. Always.

I don't watch tv very often and haven't watch SNL in eons. Was he funny? I don't particularly care for his acting but maybe he does better in skits.

However, it always amazes me when some Orange Jesus groupies talk about how Biden is weak and frail and their Lord and Savior is a "leader". If he's such a strong leader, why do they need to be helicopter parents for him 24/7/365? The "man" dodged the military, is functionally illiterate, has no leadership skills and is not only a sell-out, he is bilking them for money while selling them out. Look how much support he's given the Capitol rioters. Exactly.

My point is this, Ark. Every time they get their panties in a bunch, think about what that tells us they really think of him. Not much if he can't handle some stupid gossip at a Summit, not screw up our pandemic response, delay Stimulus checks so his ugly signature could be on them, try to cut a backdoor deal with Russia to make money off the vaccines, negotiate with terrorists and gets our people and Afghani friends killed, and invites them to our Camp David and the 4,839,543 other selfish, stupid, ignorant, arrogant, tone-deaf things he's done while staining our Oval Office and to-date and counting.

They have to defend him because they know he's a total loser so get a laugh every time they chase you around spewing the cult mantras. It's hilarious.

Most likely. Who cares what they think? They think whatever the Orange Idiot tells them to think. Can you even imagine how amazingly horrible that must be? And, they have the added bonus of knowing that loyalty toward him only works in one direction and they still won't break free. That has to torture.

 

Alec Baldwin commented on Twitter in 2017 about how he wondered what it would feel like to wrongfully kill someone after a Huntington Beach Police officer killed violent suspect, WELL! I guess he finally got his wish when he Blew! the Life right out of Halyna Hutchins body with a Gun he was irresponsibly handling.
https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/alec-baldwin-haunted-over-old-tweet-about-fatal-cop-shooting/

Now there's a video of him on Instagram crying like a little bitch about how he misses his family when flying out to do his movies, I wonder how much crying he's going to do in front of his Cellmate when he's sittin in the Pokey for the majority of what life he has left.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZk91k-tuBR/

Curious if this fake tough guy cries for Police officers that go to jail, lose their freedom and don't get to see their families anymore after shooting a violent felon.
What! a Stinkin Hypocrite this Creep is