Baldwin says he doesn't feel guilty for 'Rust' shooting: Someone else 'is responsible'

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I am sure you are aware that on the set of Baldwin, there was an expert present who did that job. Or well... supposedly did that job.
    Tell me. If a technician tells it's okay for use, and the plane ends up crashing because of that technician was wrong,... would you still blame the pilot for not checking everything like a technician?
     
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    Nope just demonstrating the ridiculous picture you think are real without a clue at if THEY are LMFAO :)
     
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    Again, it's the responsibility of anyone picking up a firearm to make sure it's safty is on "If equipped", the chamber cleared and no bullet under the pin.. And most of all, not pointed at anyone.. That's just basic common sense safety gun owner practice and teach their children.. Baldwin was clearly a moron and shouldn't even been allowed to touch a firearm and that goes for the other moron that gave him a loaded live weapon to hold.... Then again most actors like Baldwin are groomed to mimic/parrot words that a director tells them to say and not think for themselves.. That's the single biggest reason they gravitate to the DNC.

    Like I say Alex baldwin couldn't pass the hunter safety test and you wouldn't either..
     
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    Stop excusing Baldwin. He himself didn't exercise proper gun safety, period. If you are handed a gun you check to see if it's loaded REGARDLESS of what someone tells you. He didn't exercise gun safety (fact). Yes, others failed in their responsibilities too, but that doesn't excuse Baldwin either.
     
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    LMAO, there was no expert there that day :wall:
     
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    100% correct. It doesn't matter how Baldwin feels, let the FBI run their investigation and we can go from there.

    After all of this, it is about time that the movie industry stop using live rounds, this has happened in the past, and their industry should make it easy for any close ups to look like live rounds. !!!
     
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    By his own words:
    1.Baldwin "released the hammer".
    2. Did not check the gun for live rounds. (Whether his job or not, it is expected and accepted firearm safety protocol). I have checked a weapon, declared it clear, handed it to someone, and watched them re-check it. No offense taken. Its just what you DO.
    3. As producer, he is responsible for the day to day operations of the set.
    4. This interview was to set the narrative that "he never pulled the trigger" for future civil suits.

    Here's a little firearm fact for you: If you retract the hammer with a live round in the chamber, then release or drop the hammer, IT WILL FIRE THE CARTRIDGE IN THE CHAMBER. WHETHER THE TRIGGER IS "PULLED" IS IRRELEVANT.

    The root cause is a live round introduced into a movie set.
    The secondary cause is poor firearm safety, all the way from producer to actor. In this case, the same guy.
    He should at least have to answer to negligence.
    I dont know if he can.
     
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    Apples to Orangeman. Person who has the gun has the responsibility to make sure it’s not loaded. This was unavoidable. Check the weapon!!!
     
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    Pilots have a pre-flight checklist that they perform prior to flight. So yes, I would blame the pilot if he did not perform the pre-flight checklist that ensures the quality of the technician's work.
     
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    If you look into it, you would see that using real guns on a set is absolutely normal. It all could be done with plastic fake guns and made to look real with CGI. While CGI is used all over the place, it's simply not happening with guns. People don't even know why it isn't done with CGI. The joke is on you thinking it is.
     
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    Then MAYBE those actors should all be educated like a 12 year old as to HOW TO HANDLE a firearm, right?
     
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    Baldwin didn't pick up the gun. The gun was handed over by the expert who told him it's checked and it's safe.

    Guns are pointed at all kinds of people on a set. People use blanks on a set. Your idea that the chamber must be clear and not pointing your weapon doesn't work on a set. And I showed you that pointing guns at people is totally normal on a set. Haven't you ever watched a movie? lol
     
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    SOOOO! Doesn't change a thing :) :wall:
     
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    If he checked it it's loaded, he would see that it was. The plan was to use blanks.
     
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    That's not how single action revolvers work. The hammer will not release without pulling the trigger. If you pull it to less than half and release it, 1) it lacks the force to set off a primer and 2) the cylinder is not aligned with the barrel and so cannot take a hammer strike or fire.
    If you pull it to half and release it, it stays at half **** and you'd have to pull the trigger to release the hammer.
    If you pull it to full ****, it stays that way unless the trigger gets pulled.
     
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    Yup it's just what YOU do! Great post!
     
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    Blanks have a big ****ing hole in the cartridge that is obvious to any person who has ever seen a live round or a blank round before, much less someone who has seen both and been trained with both.
     
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    It’s okay to literally kill someone if you’re an actor but if you have gun stolen in and used in crime your held for manslaughter.
     
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    It was always the idea to do use a loaded gun,... loaded with blanks that is. So spotting the gun was indeed loaded would not have meant a thing.
     
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    Not really..
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    the far right is a live cartridge/round

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    These are the ones you might hear at a car race or some thing. In any case the plug itself is dangerous too.. One thing I don't understand is most films today are dubbed. Gun fire is general added to the film by sound effect people and the fire is enhanced for dramatic effect.. So why the need for a real weapon in this day and age..

    A lil plastic gun would have solved a lot of stupid and a life in this instance..
     
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    You can bet your ass it means something now, HUH?
     
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    That pre-flight checklist doesn't involve inspecting the plane as an engineer to see if the bolts are all there etc.
     
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    It does. It's outsourcing something to an expert when you are not sure what you're doing. And with that, you're handing over the responsibility of it too.
     
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    uh no. on a set they have all kinds of blanks. They got blanks that look exactly like a real bullet, but with no power... used to film an actor supposedly loading a gun. And there are blanks with all kinds of grades of gunpower to make that flash happen with or without a recoil. That's where that expert comes in. Because they know what is what, and what is needed when. Your random actor simply does not.
     
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    Nope, if Baldwin would have been properly trained in firearm safety the death would have no happened.. Ultimately the final check never happened because Alex took for GRANTED something every competent gun owner learns to do when handed a firearm..
     

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