"Banning semi autos certainly WOULD address mass shootings"

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  1. Lesh

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    It takes skill as opposed to no skill. They also don't transport in bulk as easily as detachable magazines and still...only hold 6 (sometimes as many as 8) bullets as opposed to 15. They also screw up way more often than detachable magazines (which is almost never for DMs)
     
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    I have NEVER said the Constitution limits or prevents anything.

    It simply doesn't ADDRESS gun ownership outside of their use in a "Well Regulated Militia...."
     
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    The militia was merely the citizens who organized when it was necessary and they needed to all be gun owners, owners of proper weapons, properly maintained and who knew how to use them, well regulated. Does the obvious conflict in your attempted interpretation even dawn on you considering one of the prime reasons for the 2nd Amendment? Go study your history.
     
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    Just like a speedloader, eh?
    Stop acting like you know something about the subject you spout off about
     
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    This statement is false.
     
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    You know this statement is false.
     
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    It takes skill to simply fire a gun what is your point? You can use a speedloader with the same speed as magazine or a clip. they can be transported just as easily and can hold 8 rounds if that is what the revolver holds and probably screw up LESS than a magazine which has to feed repetitive rounds.

    Stop throwing s*** on the wall hoping it will stick you are only digging your hole deeper.
     
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    You know this statement is false.
     
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    Oh, the irony.
    Tell us again why you don't care about the 20,000 firearm-related suicides each year.
     
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    Your inane and unnecessary idea would not prevent him from getting a semi-auto.
     
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    You have no idea whatsoever if any of this is true.
     
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    I have 4 that hold 7.
     
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    there is nothing in the constitution that can HONESTLY be read as delegating any gun control power to the federal government over private citizens. federal gun control is one of the most dishonest frauds ever perpetrated upon the public by the federal government and mainly FDR's administration
     
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    And there you have it -- she wants to ban lever, bolt, and slide action rifles/shotguns as well as semi-autos.

    Out the other side of her mouth, she'll tell you no one wants to ban guns.
     
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    i prefer moon clips in my SW performance center 9mm.
     
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    you continue to prove you know nothing about shooting at above say a summer camp level
     
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    According to the description in the Constitution (Article 1 Section 8) they are organized, disciplined, trained, and have officers
     
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    Back when the 2nd Amendment was written, "well-regulated" didn't mean to restrict and/or control, it meant "well-functioning" or working in proper order.

    The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:
    • 1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."
    • 1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."
    • 1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."
    • 1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."
    • 1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."
    • 1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."
    The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.
     
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    CNC machines are computer controlled and if you download the NC program, then it's as easily as setting up the fixture and pressing a button.

    If you can operate a modern day 3D printer and a computer, then you can operate a milling machine.
     
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    Moon clips also have the potential to decrease the reliability of a revolver. Moon clips are stamped from relatively thin spring steel and can be bent or slightly warped by improper handling. A bent moon clip has the potential to jam a revolver by inhibiting the proper rotation of the cylinder. This can be prevented, in large part, by careful handling of the loaded moon clips, and by checking each moon clip in the revolver for proper function.

    So apparently you have to handle them carefully or they don't work so well. Throw a bunch in a bag and they screw up.

    Speed loaders are even worse.
     
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    1/3rd of all mass shootings are committed with non-assault weapons.
     
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    Oddly...you are trying to claim you get your "right to bear arms" from the Constitution not from the dictionary.
     
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    Like what...other semi-autos?
     
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    you obviously don't buy the good ones. all the top steel shooters use them.
     
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    so why the hard on against semi autos? you want to ban 95% of the pistols LE uses?
     

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