Bavaria orders Christian crosses in all state buildings

Well, it was about time Germans show who's boss in Germany. Let the Muslims keep that in mind and remember they are only guests there.

 

It's weird reading that because here in the U.S. Christian groups (with the exception of Catholics) that want prayer and icons all over tend to be associated with.....the far right. LOL

 

Huh, yeah, telling people how they should see things is usually a recipe for people aligning their interpretations. /sarcasm

 

There are some lousy Christian values in the Bible.

 

No their aren't.

 

So any Christian should be welcome in Germany regardless of where they're from and no non-Christian should be welcome there, even if they're born and bred there?

 

LOL They are only guests there, seriously, you said that? Muslims have been in Germany for many decades; thus, there are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions who were born there and are German citizens, not guests. It's like saying all Chinese Americans are guests instead of citizens. Good grief! Some things people write here are just incredible.

 

There are two sides to this........
on one level I am a Christian and I do believe that Germany will be blessed for
honoring Messiah Yeshua - Jesus rather than the Prophet Muhammad, (peace be upon him)......
but............
eighteen hundred years of pogroms and holocausts have left the remaining Jews of Bavaria
leery of crosses.........
offended by crosses...... so this will lead to more Jews making Aliyah to the nation of Israel because we know what happens within a number of years after this begins..........
unless Christianity itself is being transformed by NDE accounts or some other power.

Howard Storm Ph. D:

 

I'd hang a cross upside-down. The law doesn't say how it has to be displayed.

 

I would be honoured to get your reaction to this thread:



I want to start an online outreach to Satanists....

 

I mean culturally.
Chinese Americans assimilate to American culture. Muslims often don't assimilate to Western culture and values. And that's the whole point.

 

They do. For some it takes time. That is what immigration is like. It has been that way for centuries. When I was younger, in my 20s, I had a good friend who is Chinese American. His parents immigrated to NYC before he was born. They lived in China Town in NYC. He and his siblings grew up completely Americanized. His father was a businessman and learned to speak English and moved about NYC like anyone else. His mother never learned English and almost never left China Town. Not everyone assimilates easily. That's the way it is.

Living overseas for 14 years, I've met many, many educated Muslims who live in Muslim countries, speak fluent English and are very comfortable in modern Western culture.

Most immigrants, now and throughout history, are economic immigrants looking for a better life. They are poorly educated and simple people, often very religious. They adapt slowly to a different and more modern way of life. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY as far as immigration is concerned. People who say that Muslim immigrants are different don't know anything about history.

 

And yet you gave an example with a "completely Americanized Chinese" just a few lines above.
How come a Chinese can assimilate in one generation and Muslims "adapt slowly"? I'll tell you why - because the Chinese is not infested with Islam.

 

You don't read well do you? He was born in America. He didn't assimilate. He was born here and grew up here. He didn't assimilate, he's an American.

And he is not from a poor family. His father was a businessman. It is the immigrants who are poor and come only for economic improvement that take longer to assimilate. They are poorly educated and usually very religious. Typically, the less educated people are the people who are religious fundamentalists. It is uneducated or poorly educated people who have less tolerance for change and differences.

 

Loads of Muslims “assimilate” Western culture and values. You just don’t identify those as Muslims, you identify them as people.

 

It's their country.
One day soon, they'd probably be a state of some unholy bloc once it gets elections and an armed defence.
Would it be considered Occident or Socialist?

 

Then why can't many second-third generation Muslims integrate, say in Germany, smarty pants?
Assimilate, natural born citizens, you can call/label them as you wish, it doesn't change the essence.

 

I've lived in Germany, have you? They are integrated. It is really the rare person who is born in Germany who is any problem. You don't really know anything. You think you do, but you don't.

 

No, just visited.

Yeah?
From the lion's mouth.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

 

The Guardian is a British paper. They don't live in Germany.

 

You don't live in Germany too, so...
The Guardian may not live in Germany but the Angel of darkness Merkel does. And she said those words.
Are you happen to be one of those conquering Islamic parasites by any chance?

 

Angel of darkness? ¿Merkel? … What's that?

Is it "This [multicultural] approach has failed, utterly failed," Merkel told the meeting in Potsdam, west of Berlin, yesterday ... in October 2010. ???

@Canell:
You compared human beings with parasites. The next step is to exterminate parasites in concentration camps with lethal gas. What you said here is in Germany called "Volksverhetzung" (hate speech, demagoguery) and not "Meinungsfreiheit" (freedom of speech, freedom of opinion). Here in Bavaria the most people would see in you a criminal Nazi.

To the theme here:

In Bavaria Muslims and Christians are respecting each other. To renew all visible crosses in our institutions has no reason in Muslims.

Our constitution starts with this words:
"In the face of the scene of devastation into which the survivors of the 2nd World War were led by a godless state and social order which lacked any conscience and respect for human dignity, with the firm intention of permanently securing for the future generations the blessings of peace, humanity and justice and mindful of its history of more than a thousand years, the Bavarian people herewith bestows upon itself the following Democratic Constitution."

The cross in institutions makes the common will of the very most of the Bavarian people visible not to be a godless state. For us the Christian values have a very big priority. And most of our Muslims here know very well that this values are also protecting them too. No one has to live in fear of the people who hang crosses in their institutions. Live in fear of the people, who will tear the crosses from our walls.

 

I have lived in both Germany and Austria for a total of 5 years. Lived and worked there. I know what Germany is like. You don't know anything. You listen to RW propaganda and swallow it whole.

As far as my ethnicity: I'm probably a whole lot more American than you are, but the question indicates where your head is at, shamefully.

From your article: "Yesterday's speech is widely seen as a lurch to the right designed to placate that element in her party." What she said was designed to placate the right. She said it because of pressure from RWrs. Placate means to make (someone) less angry or hostile. It isn't as if she believes what she's saying. I've been in and out of Germany since the 80s. There have been millions of Turkish people there for decades; they are in Austria, where I have also lived, by the millions too. It is the recent influx of people from the Syrian war that is causing the problem. Too many people in a short time.

Some people are blinded by bigotry and misinformation, willing to hate without knowing the facts.

 

Providing that I am European who has never set foot in America, I think you might be right.
Margot, is that you?

 

Angel(a) [of darkness] Merkel.

If you are concerned about hate speech, why don't you ban theQuran with its hate speech towards non-Muslims?
We have discussed that many times in this section of the forum.