BBC defend burqa/niqab

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    This isn't about the burqa, this is about Europe's problem with the burqa.
    This is about no rights of minorities; a staple of civilised society (& culture).
     
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    This was only 7 years ago.


    It's not just Muslims, it's all minorities.
     
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    Not the entire EU.

    You're going back to the 30's? What does that have to do with today?

    That's obviously disgusting.

    You say this, but the only evidence you've given me is the burqa ban in only some EU countries. Is there anything else?
    Regarding this, do you not see the security problems which can arise from people having their face covered? ESPECIALLY in the security context of Europe, considering the terror events of the past few years. And if Europe is so backward and intolerant then why do they have as many immigrants as they do?
     
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    You seem to think more is needed!? Do you want them to oppress Gypsies, Muslims and Gays before it's enough?


    Why do I go back to the 1930s?
    Because Europe hasn't evolved yet, and probably never will.
     
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    I'm sure Hitler justified making Jews wear the Star of David as some sort of security issue. @chris155au

    Since when was a burqa a motorcycle helmet?
     
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    I think more EVIDENCE is needed, yes. Are you not able to provide anything else other than the Burqa ban in select EU countries? Just try and give me ONE more example of intolerance.

    Wouldn't you say that it HAD evolved once the discrimination of the Jews was stopped?
     
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    Not really because it's not stopped, it's changed.
    First the Jews, now the Muslims.
     
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    How does a motorcycle helmet hide someones identity any more than a burqa?
     
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    If you have no rights of minorities, nothing has changed @chris155au
     
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    What about the many years in between?
     
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    What about today?

    What about the Muslims today?
     
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    You know, you think Europe's learned...
    Then France bans the burqa.
     
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    If religious wear / signs of modesty isn't allowed, why not go after nuns?
    I bet a nun would get a ride but a Muslim woman wearing a niqab won't.

    So the fact that the burqa isn't except for religious grounds, is backward IMO since you think if you allowed burqas, gangs would wear them in a loophole or something.

    There's no protection for the minority there whatsoever, it's the rights of the majority to pitch fork with flaming torches leaving women at the side of the road if they're Muslim, or worse; harass her with a badge, forcing her to take it off.
     
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    Okay, so you clearly have no other evidence, other than the burqa ban. So if the burqa became legal again, would everything be fine? Would the EU no longer be a "bunch of savages who openly mock Islam?"
     
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    Its not about "religious wear / signs of modesty!" If it was, then wouldn't ALL Muslim religious wear be banned? Nuns faces are not covered! This is the difference.

    Isn't this a possibility? Its a pretty good way for a terrorist to disguise themselves.

    That bus driver did NOT have the right to leave the women at the side of the road.

    What badge?
     
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    Niqabs don't cover the face, why are niqabs banned?

    What badge? What a stupid question when it's French Police harassing women writing them tickets or locking them up for wearing them.
    The 'French' badge of authority.
     
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    When it gets banned in public including on the busses, that bus driver has the right.
    It's the NL and they do have the right to do that.
    It's disgusting but it isn't unlawful and the woman has no right in that country in that situation.

    What do you expect from Europe?
     
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    Amel Zenoune, killed for not wearing hijab and going to the university in Algeria :
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    Why don't any of your backward, and savage Islamic "freedom fighters" like the Taliban, ISIS and Boko Haram sign the Geneva Convention and obey the rules of civilized people?
     
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    We've obtained a picture of the suspects.

    WANTED:

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    Why does Germany sign the Lisbon Treaty then break Article 125?
    Civilised people have rules and abide by them, the EU protects nuns and oppresses niqabs and doesn't lift a finger to penalise Germany because the EU are weak, and Germany bank roll it.

    You know I'm British right? Britain doesn't look too kindly on savage behaviour so I as a Brit have no such backward Islamic freedom fighters to call my own, thank God.
    Why would you treat a British Muslim the same as IS?
     
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    ISIS are terrorist dogs. Boot and fist is all they know, and all they deserve.

    I'm an American, and Islam is not compatible with American values or law. Those Muslims who can adapt to Western values, civilization and our laws, will do better. Any that support Sharia Law should be kicked out.
     
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    And what of Europe? When EU members have to abide by the Lisbon Treaty, no one can say the UK isn't complying with it even over Brexit and Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.
    Germany however broke it by breaking Article 125 of the Lisbon Treaty, but at least the British still respect law, because we're not backward.
    The British vote for the leader of the UK; The French don't vote for the leader of the EU;
    We have democracy.
    I reserve the right to judge other countries for not protecting their minorities too. So this makes me judge France in a negative for their Majority Rights.
    Germany those Lisbon Treaty breaking Greece lending for Greek spending carbon emission falsifying VW plant havers, don't even have freedom of speech.

    From Spain to Germany, not much by way of 'civilised' people.
    Nazis, Franco, the recent history is terrible.
     
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    Unlike you, I hold ALL nations, including Muslim terror states to the same standards.

    So, how about Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somali, Yemen----have they signed a treaty protecting Christians and Jews?

    And what about the diversity of all these and other Muslim Supremacist nations? Have you ever demanded they have more Jews and Christians, and that they build more synagogues and churches there?

    All I see is Muslims wanting to invade and take over all nations.
     
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    You're not American, you're German by the way you're talking.
    USA has freedom of religion.
    UK does too.

    Unlike you, I don't tar British Muslims with the same brush as ISIS.

    Who gives a **** who they're not protecting in Pakistan or Saudi, this is about the BBC and the UK and British Muslims.
     

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