Oh, I didn't miss it. Nice debunker links, by the way. You have no commentary on Bush (as well others in his administration) lying about: “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings”
You seems very retrained to comment back, instead you focus on one point I didn't cover. The usual strategy. Edit: That is not an invitation to reply back with a gish gallop! What's to comment? He had the warnings, though not specific. He was told by Bill Clinton when he made office, as well as repeatedly by Richard Clarke, that Bin Laden was a serious threat and determined to attack the US. Bush's administration put no weight on it. They were interested in Iraq, not some nutjob who had managed to kill 30 people in 10 years outside the US. C*ck-up, not conspiracy.
I wouldn't say that I have a "low threshold of amusement" but more of a "wide-spectrum of amusement."
IIRC, when I was 7, my dad and uncle's jokes were hilarious, as were arm pit farts. When I was in New York last week on my honeymoon, I saw a little boy (probably around 7- doing arm pit farts, and it made me laugh, but not because he was doing arm pit farts, but because he was enjoying himself. A lot of things make me laugh, but few things make me really laugh, you know?
I hope that muppet's post wasn't one of them. I don't find that type of banality funny, just stupid and repetitive. Now, want me to quote-mine the best parts from Dumb and Dumber? Oh, I'm there. - - - Updated - - - http://www.acronymfinder.com/Years-Old-(YO).html
Ehhhhhhh... Some good, funny parts, but overrated in my opinion, just like the overwhelming majority of Will Ferrell movies that a lot of people praise.
I'm not praising that movie, I just mentioned it because it's got it's moments in the stupid humor category. Raising Arizona however.......genius. If you disagree I'll fight you on that one.
a steel building in Spain burned for 20 hours an did not collapse... at all. I understand that the fires did not have to melt the steel in the WTC, just make it expand an weaken, but if that was the case the concrete inner core of the WTC would still remain. And steel was melted, in large amounts. Steel beams cut at near perfect angles also, not just one or two either. Even the discovery channel animation show the inner cores still standing after the floors collapsed.Look at the volcano-like clouds that billow out after the towers fall, that indicates very high temperature.Anyone who has started a fire (fireplace, BBQ, camping ect.) will tell you that thick black smoke indicates its oxygen starved.If most of the fuel burnt off in the impact, what was feeding the fires to make them able to melt steel? This is my first post, so i apologize if these issues were already covered. My point is that what the Gov told us is not the whole story at all. That does not make them guilty, true, but it makes one wonder. If i wrote something that is not correct please let me know and i will correct it ASAP. Also, one last thing. The hole in the Pentagon was not big enough. Were was the wing and engine holes?
Allow me to quickly point out a few of your errors. Actually the perimeter portion of the top, which was constructed of steel, did collapse; Link The remaining building was concrete, and you are correct, it did not collapse. Two main errors here. First, the core of the WTC was steel, not concrete. The only concrete in the WTC buildings were the floor slabs. That's it. Yet even so, the core of both towers did remain standing momentarily after the perimeter had fallen. Link. A lot of molten metal, but no one actually tested it to prove whether or not it was steel. Remember aluminium, copper, lead, all melt below steel. There were plenty of these metals in and below the towers. And remember 200 of these were parked below the towers and burned for 100 days; Link. Yes, but done during clean up. Link. Link 2. Yup, correctly so. See above. Actually survivors tell of the clouds being warm, but not burning hot. Thats how things like paper, and people, survived despite being almost at the base. Link. I grew up on a farm. We burned lots of things. Actually it's white smoke which will tell you you've smoldered a fire. Black smoke indicates you're burning something you probably shouldn't be, such as plastics, a mattress, couch, diesel drum, anything oil based. Link 1. Link 2. Again, no one tested if the molten material was steel. But remember these were two huge office buildings, filled with lots of oil based products; desks, chairs, computers, lots of things. Always good to question, but be open to the right answer. You can go to my blog for that. http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz/ Welcome to PF.
I loved Valley Girl, haven't thought about that one in years. One of my favorite bands made a cameo. Trivia: Fredric Forrest and Colleen Camp (Julie's Parents) also appeared together in Apocalypse Now!
The Plimsouls I'm guessing (great band)? Outside some of the silly pop in that movie, it actually has some great tunes on it. I remember seeing Gary Myrick back in the day.
