Bennett on State of HI: "I can't seem to get them to say 'yes.'

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  1. Jebediah

    Jebediah Banned

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    Yes we have established he is a troll. His job is to read and follow instructions. He was told by Hawaii what to do and instead of just filling out the paperwork like everybody else he decided to hop on the internet and act all confused. He's an idiot.
     
  2. paco

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    That was 2008 though, a completely different election. Each election is different, and candidates must meet the eligibility requirements for each state with every new election. The election process is dynamic, and ballot access requirements can change depending on the candidate's electable condition. The state of Arizona is requiring that the state of Hawaii verifies Obama's eligibility for them or else he won't meet the state of Arizona's ballot access requirements. Again, see Ralph Nader, 2004. .Oh, and you can forget the Full Faith and Credit Clause excuse because ballot access is regulated by each state; the federal government has no authority there. If they did, then Ralph Nader would have been on every state ballot in 2004 instead of in only 39 states.
     
  3. Think for myself

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    Excellent point.

    What eligibility requirements changed for Arizona? Seems to me that the president is constitutionally eligible to be president, so what are the new rules for Arizona only? What changed between 2008 and now in Arizona?
     
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    So, we should engage in redundant verification effort on a sitting president, log work hours that are funded by tax dollars for why? Because people who don't like Barak Obama want to bring this up again on other people's dollars?

    Maybe he should buy a $75 toilet seat cover or $60 ink pen while he's at it.
     
  5. DonGlock26

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    Why can't HI just say yes? It's like they don't want to go on the record prior to Obama's defeat. Are they afraid of the investigations afterward?


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    Because there is a procedure for releasing the records of citizens by the government. Bennett was instructed to fill out appropriate paperwork like everyone else and to date he has chosen not to. Sorry. The law applies to everyone... even Republicans. When Bennett decides he is going to be a big boy and read and follow instructions I'm sure a more fruitful dialog will ensue. Until then he can just go on trolling on the internet. Obama will be on the ballot.
     
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    Unless you're a resident of the state of Arizona or Hawaii, then those "long work hours that are funded by tax dollars" are no concern to you.
     
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    Perhaps because they, too, have to pay civil servants and maybe they're tired of being dragged into a partisan war that they are half an ocean away from?
     
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    It was "log", as in: "to log in your time", and it is of concern to me as much as the goings on in Florida are of concern to you and everyone else. Until such time as we are not all American citizens I will comment as I please. :)
     
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    Well, now the state of Arizona has called Obama's eligibility into question. If Hawaii doesn't comply, more states might follow Arizona's lead. Obama isn't a very well-liked president.
     
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    No... a political hack, Arizona Secretary of State Bennett who is co-chair of Romney's election committee is calling Obama's eligibility into question.
     
  12. Think for myself

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    Sorry, you said the standards have changed. I asked for the new standards. What are they?

    Can I expect that the co chair of the Romney campaign in Arizona will also hold up Romney's eligibility? Or does these magical and non existent new rules only apply to others?
     
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    He was?


    "Bennett said he sent a request after receiving a barrage of emails from constituents around the time that Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio launched an investigation into Obama's birth certificate.

    "I was frankly expecting that they would very quickly and very simply say 'yes,'" Bennett said. "Eight weeks later, they haven't said — I can't seem to get them to say 'yes.'"

    Bennett said the state responded by asking him to send proof that he has the authority to request the information."
     
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    How much would a "yes" cost?

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    Proof that Bennett has the authority and legitimate cause to request the information, which he clearly hasn't provided to the State of Hawaii.
     
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    Does anyone else find it odd that 1,200 out of 6.5 million people in the state of Arizona (a wopping .00018%) is considered significant enough for Bennett to get mixed up in this (*)(*)(*)(*)show?

    Is Bennett also requesting proof that Romney was born in the United States? If not he is a flaming hypocrite with double standards.
     
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    I just want to make sure I have this right.

    All the Secretary of State for Arizona is asking for is that a Hawaiian official state that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii? Just a "Yes" from a state official?
     
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    Hawaii has indeed answered him.

     
  19. paco

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    I never said the standards had changed. I said that the election process is dynamic and that a candidate's electability can change depending on his or her eligibility. Obama's eligibility is being called into question now in Arizona. Jan Brewer is no longer the Secretary of State in AZ. The game has changed now. And now, it's all on Hawaii to verify that Obama is who he claims he is, and it shouldn't matter if Hawaii has to do it this one time or 49 more times. They'll comply or Obama doesn't go on Arizona's ballot. It's that simple.
     
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    You did not answer my question.... why do liberals have to dance around and not give a straight answer? Let me try this again so I have this right.

    Yes/No?
     
  21. Lunchboxxy

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    Yes, I did answer your question if you would have read the link. Yes, he is asking for verification of Obama's birth, and the state of Hawaii has told him what he will need to do to get his answer in accordance with state laws of Hawaii.
     
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    You did not answer my very direct question... typical liberal.

    Let's try for a third time... this time perhaps somebody other than Lunchboxxy so the comprehension level will perhaps go up.



    YES/NO?

    I am not asking how the Hawaiians responded at this time. I am ONLY asking what Arizona is looking for. I want to know if I have the Arizona request and what would satisfy them correct.
     
  23. Think for myself

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    Actually, you did.

    So what were the changes by the state of Arizona? Surely we can expect that these changes be applied to all candidates, correct?
     
  24. Lunchboxxy

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    I'm sorry your reading comprehension is poor, I answered you twice now. If you want to ignore the information and keep your head in the sand, that is your problem.


    Again, yes, Bennett is asking for verification that Obama was born in Hawaii. The state of Hawaii has given him criteria that he can follow in accordance with state laws if he would like that information.
     
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    Bennet is asking for a simple "YES" is your statement now LB? Because you were not clear the first two times.

    Why is he asking if Hawaiian officials have already said "YES" as you have claimed? If they have already said "YES", then why do they not just repeat it to shut him the hell up?

    You see, I 99.9% believe Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. People didn't travel pregnant women or infants back then from Kenya. There is no record of his mother in Kenya. There is a newspaper announcement of his birth. But, I am not down with state officials playing grab ass bullcrap games over something so important. If Arizona simply asked for a "YES", then give it to them and let's move on. I don't like the Birther vs. Non-BIrther game that you and others play.
     

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