Bennett on State of HI: "I can't seem to get them to say 'yes.'

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  1. Think for myself

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    According to Bennett, he requested verification.

    "By requesting the verification I can now report to thousands of constituents that we did what can be done and he is qualified to be on the ballot," Bennett said.


    http://www.azfamily.com/news/politics/Latest-on-bennett-152793135.html

    It is absolutely amazing that as this conspiracy theory gets battered about, the parameters keep changing, as your post demonstrated.

    Once again the birther nonsense is shown to be just that, nonsense.

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  2. Shilliam Watner

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    Bennett needs to make the information he received from Hawaii available to the public for his constituents to see.
     
  3. paco

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    I guess we won't know for sure until Bennett actually opens the e-mail that they sent to him.
     
  4. Shiva_TD

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    The Congress cannot override conditions established by the US Constitution and the 14th Amendment establishes the criteria for natural born citizenship. This criteria is exempt from statutory control and Congress, under Article I Section 8, is Constitutionally limited to only creating "laws of naturalization" so anyone that becomes a US citizen by statutory law is a "naturalized" citizen according the the 14th Amendment.

    John McCain is not a natural born citizen because he was NOT born in the United States and he received his citizenship by naturalization under the statutory laws passed by Congress.
     
  5. Think for myself

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    Needs to? Why? The birther crowd will still say that it is fake, in my fine opinion.

    The president's birth certificate has been available for years. Ironically, folks opt to ignore fact and reality for the incredible.
     
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    The State of Hawaii didn't say they sent Bennett an email. They stated they sent Bennett the documents he requested confirming that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born citizen. The State of Hawaii notified others by email that this had been done. I would assume that Hawaii sent Bennett a certified copy of Obama's COLB that Obama received in 2007 which is the official record of birth from the Hawaii Dept of Health.
     
  7. Think for myself

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    Know what for sure?

    This is the amazing thing about birthers. No matter where they put the goalposts, when the criteria they demand is reach the huddle and jointly move those goalposts. Over and over and over, for years on end, no matter how much their noses are shoved into the steaming pile of evidence they keep denying fact.
     
  8. Shiva_TD

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    Not only has it been available it's also been physically examined by independent experts and confirmed to be authentic.
     
  9. BullsLawDan

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    Why?

    Here, I'll answer for you: Because if he doesn't, and declares that Obama will be on the ballot, and was born in Hawaii, you and the rest of the loony bin will declare that Bennett is "part of the conspiracy".

    It's what you do any time someone gives you information you don't like - you simply decide they must be part of the ever-growing conspiracy.
     
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    http://www.azfamily.com/news/politics/Latest-on-bennett-152793135.html

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    The article says in the very first paragraph that the information that Bennett had requested was sent via email. Then a couple of paragraphs down the page it says that as of 7 PM Tuesday night, Bennett had not actually opened the email that they had sent to him, but he was confident that it contained the information that Bennett had asked for. Did you guys even bother reading the article?

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    Then you have the nerve to claim that John McCain is not a natural born citizen even though he sent more actual information about his birth status than Obama ever will, did so voluntarily, and had his natural born status confirmed by Congress. Who is the birther now, Shiva?
     
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    I hardly consider a couple of interns from Factcheck.org, an outfit funded by the Annenberg Foundation of which Obama was also a part of during his time in Chicago, to be "experts" on the subject.
     
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    Who cares? In today's fast-paced news cycle, your article is already out of date.

    Try this one:
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/polit...2obama-birth-hawaii-arizona-verification.html

    In part:
    Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett said Tuesday night that he has received information from Hawaii that proves President Obama's American birth and satisfies Arizona's requirements for having the president on the upcoming election ballot.


    A Hawaii official sent Bennett's office verification of birth for President Obama on Tuesday, according to both Bennett and Hawaii officials.

    Bennett said the issue is now resolved from his point of view. He has cancelled a planned Wednesday news conference where he was expected to discuss the issue.


    "I'm happy that we got what we asked for and that's what I was expecting all along," Bennett said Tuesday night.



    Now, if birthers are in any way sane, they will ask the mods to lock the thread, as this topic is now over and done with. I'm not holding my breath.

     
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    Bennett is saying that he has an email from Hawaii that he hasn't even opened? What is he, some kind of a jerk?

    Let's go to the source which comes from the State of Hawaii:

    http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-confirms-obamas-birth-records-arizona-poll-official-122540093.html

    Joshua Wisch didn't state how or what information he sent to Bennett but instead only stated that the issue was resolved as he had submitted the verification that Bennet was looking for.

    I'm not about to believe Bennett when he's commenting on something he hasn't even taken the time to review. The guy is a real nutcase IMO.

    John McCain was not born in the United States and that is one of the two criteria established by the 14th Amendment to be a natural born citizen. I'm not claiming anything that isn't in black and white in the US Constitution.
     
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    Why lock the thread? I think this is good news and I am glad the State of Hawaii is far more reasonable than the "aborters".

    Now, Arizona needs to ask the same of Michigan for Romney.
     
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    Of course they won't, just more proof Arizona is a racist, hateful and un-American state. I mean any state that elects a corrupt, racist sheriff deserves anything it gets.
     
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    Only Liberals like you have brought racism into this subject.

    Liberals are far more racists... and it has been proven over and over and over again.
     
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    Speaking of not reading the article. John McCain never sent any information about his birth status- not voluntarily, not involuntarily.

    That is one of the reasons why Birthers are such idiots.

    John McCain had his natural born citizenship confirmed unofficially by the very same Congress which confirmed Barack Obama as President. And they did so without any birth certificate from John McCain, and without doing any research. They did so because they didn't want any controversy about whether a person born outside the U.S. was a NBC. Because that is a real controversy- but I agreed with Congress then and still do.

    But really- stop pretending John McCain ever provided anything- we never saw his birth certificate, Congress never saw it, the Secretaries of States never saw it. Everyone just took him at his word. And thats okay.
     
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    Sure they are. Keep telling yourself that.
     
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    So you think that States should question a President's eligiblity based upon whether he is 'well liked' or not?

    Oh and I expect other states to follow Arizona's lead....since Arizona agrees President Obama is eligible.

    Birthers lol
     
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    Well there is 'proof' and there is Birther 'proof'.

    Excuse my skepticism about your claim.
     
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    So...now that Hawaii has confirmed to Arizona that Barack Obama was born there, and the State of Arizona has accepted that confirmation....

    Has a single Birthers mind been changed?
    Has anyone of the people who claimed that Hawaii must be hiding something just because Hawaii followed Hawaiian law in responding, changed their mind?

    I somehow suspect not.....
     
  23. birddog

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    When will Bennett show his proof?

    I will be satisfied when Sheriff Joe is.
     
  24. The Mello Guy

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    the birthtards said this was all going to be over if Obama just released it....im starting to feel mislead
     
  25. JohnnyMo

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    I suspect that the goons will assert that the WH got to Bennett . LMAO
     

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