Biden's Gun Control Law Will Radically Change U.S. Gun Ownership

Okay, cite the language.

 

Yes, see NYSRPA v BRUEN

 

That's not how constitutional amendments in Art V work

 

1) That's not how constitutional amendments work
2) The numbers are actually off because spoiler alert most gun owners know you're putting us on a list when you ask questions and take polls like that and so SURPRISE SURPRISE we lie.
3) No one cares how many guns you have dude. Its literally none of our business. We don't care what TYPES of guns you have either. Literally none of our business. Likewise, what I have and how much are not your business. You didn't sell it to me so you can't buy it back, and I'm not selling it to the government they happen to have a terrible track record of murdering innocents and selling guns to cartels. It wouldn't be responsible to sell it to them, plus its not for sale. Dr. Williams can kiss my bottom, upon which there are some boils. I fart in his general direction, his mother was a hamster and his father smelt of elderberry

 

Please explain how this will make society safer.

 

They don't care. they want the government to visit harassment or worse on people who don't buy into their leftwing authoritarian dreams

 

There are public high schools with gun and archery classes? That would've been more fun than small engines class. I disagree with the part prohibiting classes.

Making it so that we can keep track of how guns are sold makes sense if you disallow any particular kind of person (e.g. violent felon) from owning a gun. It closes one of the easier loopholes for them to avoid background checks to acquire one. Inheriting one from your pa or buying it off your brother may be one thing, but people who are selling guns in a wider capacity than that should be treated as dealers.

 

In Kentucky (where it started) NASP is popular. that stands for Archery in School Program which uses a hybrid bow-a Matthews Genesis which is a compound bow that has a constant draw weight. Thousands of kids in KY, Ohio, Tennessee and other states participate in this

Spent 30 years as a prosecutor in some form-first municipal where I rarely dealt with gun issues other than menacing but 24 years at the DOJ. very few violent felons get their guns from people who don't know they are felons. Mainly straw purchasers (usually a girlfriend or a fellow gang member who doesn't have a felony record (YET) or on the black market. Universal background checks sound good to ignorant people, but unless you are able to register the hundreds of millions of unregistered firearms in private hands, its worthless

 

Like straw purchasers and the black market? Are they going to make their buyers pass background checks?

 

as likely as crack gangs asking for prescriptions from the users they sell to

 

This is why demand reduction is more important than attacking the supply. It's just like drugs. People need to get a better appreciation for the risks and make an informed decision not to use dangerous things like drugs or guns - or if they do, to do so very responsibly.

Not worthless, just limited. Not a panacea. Lots of adult men don't even have friends these days, so it represents a barrier to some, but certainly not an insurmountable one. Demand is still the biggest factor. If somebody foolishly thinks they need to own a gun to protect their home from home invasion, they may be highly motivated to seek out a black market to get a gun. If they understand that home invasions are extremely rare and the gun is more likely to be involved in an accident, suicide, or homicide of somebody they live with, the motive is lower and they are less likely to go out of their comfort zone to get one.

 

I will note that most of my working life, I was around people who dealt with criminals and just about everyone of them had guns for self defense. Your statistics are flawed btw

 

We're told every day that gun-related violence in the US is so out of control, we need more restrictive gun control laws, and we need them NOW.
YOU tell us it is foolish to believe we need a gun to protect ourselves from gun-related violence.
Seem contradictory, so... which is it?

 

What specifically do you disagree with? I didn't cite anything, but I alluded to things. You're talking about people whose views are distorted by working with the worst of the worst.

 

Doesn't seem contradictory. As in individual, if you own a gun unloaded and easily accessible in your home, that gun is far more likely to be used to kill yourself, in an accident, or a against another family member than to stop a home invader. Why? Because home invasions are extremely rare.

A different case is carrying one around in public. In that case, if somebody confronts you as a criminal, what do they likely want? They likely want to rob you, not kill you. Is the gun more likely to escalate it into a life-threatening situation, or defuse it? Could go either way, but even if the gun might defuse it, they weren't planning to kill you in the first place, 99% of the time. This doesn't really detract from concerns about regular assaults becoming murders because of the presence of guns, or gangbangers shooting each other over business disputes. I just don't see the contradiction. As a random citizen, no there isn't some epidemic of gun violence to protect yourself against. But the rates are higher here than most developed countries, and it's because of our culture of guns, culture of violence, and culture of materialism, along with disparities and subcultures as well.

 

My gun doesn't have agency.

 

People overestimate their own stability. There's a lot that can go wrong. Even if you are 100% confident you would never kill yourself or another, they could kill you with your gun, or a grandkid could find it, or it could lead to a lethal altercation that otherwise would not have been lethal, and the good guy doesn't always win. The totality of the circumstances for a negative outcome just outweigh the extremely unlikely scenario of preventing your own murder by a home invader. Unless, I suppose, you have a specific threat you're anticipating.

 

So....
If a random member of the public is n no real danger from gun-related violence, its fair then to say those who tell us we need more restictrive gun control laws, at best, have no idea what they're talking about, or, at worst, lying to us.
Fair enough.

 

Not really. The presence of guns does increase the likelihood of lethal outcomes, but more for the persons using them (and those immediately near them often). It's sort of like alcohol in a lot of ways. Drunk drivers could randomly kill innocent people, but it's the people drinking who are doing most of the dying (yes I know drunk people are looser in car crashes and do better in that specific circumstance).

The problem with gun control is the same as the problem with drug control. Attacking the supply doesn't help much. The demand is the real issue.

 

well given there are several hundred thousand to a few million DGUs every year, your statistics about the dangers of having a gun are incorrect

 

No. My gun can't do any of those things. It is an inanimate object. Just like a chain saw, hatchet, automobile, or machete.

 

You know those stats are completely flawed, right? You should know better. A person feels intimidated, pull out their gun, and the other person walks away. Problem is, they have no idea what would have happened. Maybe the person was just going to beg for change. Maybe they were just creepy and minding their own business. Maybe they were going to rob you, in a bad-case scenario. Were they going to murder you? HIGHLY unlikely. Does pulling your gun out potentially cause them to want to murder you and you end up in a shootout where you think the gun saved your life but actually it escalated the situation. More likely.

 

isn't the best solution one where you decide what you want to own and I decide what I want to own? I stopped two break ins of my residence by displaying a gun, and stopped a mugging by two young men with a gun-this time wounding one of the attackers-a guy who was on parole for seriously injuring a security guard that he hit in the head with a radio during a break in

 

the right supports going after Biden's right to own a gun, so do they really support the 2nd?

 

Context matters. People can do more damage with a gun more easily. Suicide with your car or kitchen knife takes far more bravery and effort than, and is far less likely to succeed than a gun. An ignorant young grandkid can find your easily accessible gun for self-defense as well.