Bitter Clintons snub Trumps at Bush funeral

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Yes that was stupid since clearly half of America did not vote for Trump. She should have said 28% of Americans are deplorable traitors to American values. Shame on Hillary.
     
  2. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Donor

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    That would make some sense, perhaps, if Hillary knew something about "American values".
     
  3. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Barack Obama being one of the biggest supporters of the Arab Spring also played a roll.

    In the endgame Obama got it wrong and the Muslim Brotherhood didn't gain control in either Egypt, Libya or Syria.
     
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    Oh wait...
    You think the popular vote matters.
    Why?
     
  5. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well if American values are guns, ***** grabbing, attacking freedom of the press and lying she is definitly less knowledgable than Trump.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She was Sec of State, perhaps people just expected she could at least act diplomatic. Then again she sucked at that job, so I guess there is no surprise in this either...
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's a big "if". Are those the values Hilary was referring to? You're clearly not American.
     
  8. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Should be careful when using the word traitor.

    But even in America it honors America's first traitor with a monument.

    Not for being a traitor but for being an American war hero.

    Still can't figure out why the Democratic Taliban hasn't toppled the Benedict Arnold Monument at Saratoga National Historical Park.

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  9. TOG 6

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    They know nothing about it?
     
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  10. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nah. They identify too closely with it.
     
  11. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still can't figure it out.

    During the 2016 campaign Hillary was asked what her biggest achievement was as Secretary of State ?
    She replien regime change in Libya.

    During the last interview President Obama gave as President he was asked what was his biggest mistake he made as President ?
    President Obama said "Libya."
     
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  12. superbadbrutha

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    So why do you expect less when it comes to Trump acting presidential.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't vote for him to be presidential, I voted for him to get the courts right. All the liberal whining is just a bonus...
     
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    good grief, your conspiracies mimic alex jones.
     
  15. Curious Always

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    Pro tip - all partisans need to know the letter next to her husband's name before deciding if the like or hate the FLOTUS. Michelle was, and continues to be, called very nasty names by the right wing partisans. Many accuse her of not having given birth to her own daughters. It's shameful when either side does it, wouldn't you agree?
     
  16. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember that historic Arab Spring speech?

    Really short excerpt:
    In Egypt, in the face of mounting political and economic disorder and a campaign against U.S. democracy aid, the United States hunkered down, focused on protecting relations with the military and building access to the new Muslim Brotherhood leadership while keeping opposition parties and civil society at a distance... -> https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/21/remember-that-historic-arab-spring-speech/


    The Obama-Hillary Team and the Muslim Brotherhood: A Critique

    Despite numerous denials that Obama administration had wide-ranging dealings with the Muslim Brotherhood, it was indeed this administration with Hillary Clinton as its Secretary of the State Department which expanded a network of relationships with the Islamists. Donald Trump, by clearly identifying Radical Islam as America’s chief enemy, brings clarity into this debate.

    The Islamists’ victories in the only two post-Arab Spring elections constitute monumental developments. Although wielding different amounts of power in each country, over the last few months Islamist forces have come to play a crucial, if not dominating, role in the political life of a geographical arch that, with the qualified exceptions of Algeria and Libya, extends from Rabat to Gaza. Moreover, while the situation is still very confused, Islamists seem poised to play a greater role in other Arab countries, whether that is participating in toppling a regime (as it would be the case in Syria) or by demanding concessions of current rulers (as has increasingly been the case in Jordan).

    In the ever-changing environment that is the Arab world of the last five years, it is difficult to predict what will be the political developments of the near future and, similarly, what role Islamist forces will play in each country. But it seems fair to state generally that Islamism, in its gradualist and pragmatic approach embodied by the Muslim Brotherhood and its offshoots worldwide, seems to have been rolled back in such countries as Egypt under Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and Jordan under King Abdullah, and faces a stiff opposition from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, with the exception of Qatar. Although they played only a marginal role in the Arab uprisings, Islamist movements are likely to be among the main beneficiaries of the Arab Spring, possibly using their political mobilization skills and grassroots legitimacy to gain positions of power in the nascent democracies of the region.

    This monumental change has created many concerns among liberals, religious minorities and, more generally, all non-Islamists in the countries where Islamists have won. In addition, Arab states ruled by non-Islamist regimes have expressed concern. The former worry that Islamist ideology—even in its participatory and more moderate version—remains deeply divisive and anti-democratic, often at odds with their values and interests. They have concerns about the sincerity of Islamist parties' commitment to democracy and their views on religious freedom, women's rights and free speech. The latter believe that on foreign policy issues, most of the positions of various Muslim Brotherhood-inspired parties are on a collision course with the policies of established regimes in the region. Moreover they fear a spillover effect through which local Islamist forces will feel emboldened and challenge the countries’stability.

    Historic Mistake: Engaging the Muslim Brotherhood

    During the emergence of protests against Hosni Mubarak, the Obama Administration hedged its bets and lent diplomatic and rhetorical support to the Egyptian regime. As the protests grew and the regime began to shudder, the Obama Administration began to advocate an “orderly transition” designed to demobilize protestors and preserve the heart of the regime via a handoff to Vice President and intelligence chief Omar Suleiman. When the Tahrir demonstrators made that option moot, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), an unelected conglomeration of military officials, stepped in and assumed control of the transition. As the SCAF guided the transition process (and protected its own prerogatives), the United States sought to preserve the longstanding security relationship with Egypt’s generals.

    Early on in the process the Muslim Brotherhood entered the discussion, leading the Republican opposition to hammer the president. Then-presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty indicted Obama for “undermin[ing] allies in Israel” while “trying to appease…the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.” “With bullies,” Pawlenty asserted, “might makes right. Strength makes them submit. Get tough on our enemies, not our friends.”... continue -> https://www.newenglishreview.org/Al..._Team_and_the_Muslim_Brotherhood:_A_Critique/


     
  17. mdrobster

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    wtf does that have to do with anything in this thread.

    the bottom line, is as usual, a solemn event was used for political gain, thereby mimicing trumps classlessness.
     
  18. The Mello Guy

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    Yah I think a president supported by the people matters
     
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    Brought to you by the Trump crime syndicate. Seems trumpland is infected by CDDS (Clinton Derangement and Delusion Syndrome) that blinds them to their dear leaders lack of class and pettiness. Not to mention his little CinC "boy take my coat" moment.
     
  20. TOG 6

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    So, you don't understand how Presidents are elected.
    How did that happen?
     

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