Blacks oppose Trader Joes in Portland, claim it will attract too many whites

A Trader Joe's isn't 'progress'. Portland has all kinds of retail stores and food stores, so it's not like yet another trendy store is needed. If trader Joe's was such a major necessity it wouldn't need a big subsidy. Apparently its owners don't think its all that viable without a subsidy. They're just fishing for freebies.

All it will mean to the locals is a lot of annoying traffic and higher taxes.

 

A more common scenario is that rich people move into the neighborhood,and then the cost of living there rises to the point that the poor have to move out.

 

then they can stay there

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They have to?

 

Great joke but don't repeat that at a party of mental health professionals. Some may think your serious.

 

That, on the face of it, sounds ridiculous, but if you actually have some sort of documentation of that I'm willing to give it a look.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentrification

 

Don't you know that allowing jobs to move to a community is a good way to kill it.

 

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/02/...low-their-passion-like-leaving-the-workforce/

 

Basically progress in a community, but a certain sector of the community does not progress with it and is driven out, to create a new community? What are the poor doing in these communities to move up the economic ladder? If they are doing nothing, then they will be pushed away as prices go up and will constantly be migrating, but if they do something, then maybe at least part of that community will now be part of the middle class.
I admit I don't know enough about this to really take a real stance, other then I think Trader Joe's in the community will do more good then harm and will not spur Gentrification.

 

Show me a block of buildings the poor built for themselves then the rich moved into causing the original destitute builders to leave.
Who built the urban areas much of the poor live in today? The unemployed?

 

So all it takes to attract rich people to move into a neighborhood is a local Trader Joe's?

 

What is your point? Gentrification creates homelessness, and nothing you just stated/asked changes this fact.

 

I'm asking you for one solid quantifiable instance of gentrification? Otherwise it's just a word like Klingon Or phaser. Get it?

 

I credit the Jews. Conservative white males used to run the show in this country, and they were opposed to minority groups as they were white protestant and opposed any diversity. THen the Jews came and competed for dominance with white males and opposed every plank of this white male philosophy. It was not white males who contradicted themselves, but it was done by a group with power. It was done from within. It couldn't have been accomplished by blacks, latinos, gays, Catholics etc. it had to be done by Jews.

I agree.

 

Yep, and we see their anger everyday on internet forums such as this one.

 

You've yet to demonstrate this "fact."

But in this case, it's probably moot.

Trader Joe’s Pulls Out Of Poor Portland, Oregon Neighborhood: Defeat Of Gentrification?

And so the "food desert" continues...

 

An Aldi's would be a much better store for a low income neighborhood.

 

And what would you think would happen if I protested agasnt having a fried chicken restaurant open up in my neighborhood because it would attract blacks? I would be labeled as a KKK card caring racist

 

http://youtu.be/BKh-vWUvbs8
Kill kill the white man
Kill kill the cracker dead
Death to cracker
Death to cracker.
Lol

 

Not always... Walmart is a good example of where the harm done is often more than the help.

It depends on if the companies involved are striking deals with local government that are unfair to competitors.

In a truly free market, economic development usually helps all, but not many markets are actually free for the most part.

 

You're assuming businesses are just jumping at the chance to build on a lot that has been vacant for years. I have to wonder why it has been vacant so long. Bad neighborhood?

http://www.kgw.com/news/Trader-Joes-back-out-of-controversial-Portland-development-243389941.html

However, some residents said Monday that they are part of the neighborhood too, and now feel shut out.
"I don’t know which neighborhood they’re talking about, because we are the neighborhood," said King Neighborhood resident Sally Damewood. "I live three blocks away and we’re all for it. Where’s our voice? It’s like we’re just being cut off."

The city has tried to get a development plan off the ground at the corner in question for almost 14 years. Dana Haynes with Mayor Hales' office said the news has left the city in a lurch.

 

If you protested against having a fried chicken restaurant open BECAUSE it would attract blacks, you would be rightly labeled a racist/bigot.

 

but is not racist to be against a restaurant opening because it will attract whites?

 

I never said it wasn't. Was that what the OP said?

 

I drive by all kinds of vacant stores that have been vacant for years now, particularly a Mervyn's. Private real estate owners have no problem letting properties sit vacant for years, so this isn't an argument. A 'private equity' firm Mitt Romney made a fortune at bankrupted Mervyn's, by the way. That building along with around 60% of the storefronts in the surrounding development have been vacant for as long as that lot has. This is in an upscale neighborhood, hardly a slum or low income area.

If it was such a viable deal, then the local government wouldn't need to eat $2.4 million for it. Watch Trader Joe's now turn around and build out in Beaverton or somewhere, buying a property that cost more than this one was appraised at and opening up, if they haven't already.