Blue Lives Matter, Black Lies Shatter. Cops 1850% More Killed by Blacks Than Kill Blacks.

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  1. Cybred

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    Yep, it destroys the narrative.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mine is short and sweet! nuff said! LOL
     
  3. Daniel Light

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    Really no different than the dudes with 15 guns and 50 cases of ammo ... cause the gobermn't is after their "freedoms".
     
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    mmm not really no. To "destroy the narrative" you would need to discount the grossly over representation of black committing VIOLENT CRIMES. Which you can't. Because someone who commits VIOLENT CRIMES is likely to be combative when arrested.

    It's not a war though. Which is what your dumb narrative is trying to suggest.


    So swing and a miss, strike one.
     
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    Yet, over 95% of Black Americans aren't involved in violent crimes.

    It would be like if I came to a white man and said, "You can't be stockbroker, because 85% of all securities fraud is perpetrated by white males ...", and
    ignored the 90% of white male securities brokers who haven't committed crimes.

    The conservatives posting on this site have consistently tried to demonize Black Americans - never once recognizing that a Black male is more likely to
    save your life as a doctor, or EMT, or fireman, than they are to take it with a gun. Why is that? 100 guesses.
     
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    Where did you get that revolting idea??
     
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    Facts are facts. Most blacks are good people, but they have a higher than average percent who are not good people.
     
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    What are the hard truths that "plague" the black community and the best way to "fix" them.
     
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    I think a lot of posters here find that very comforting.
     
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    Do they? Or do they just get caught more often because of the neighborhoods they are in.
    I grew up in a rich tourist town, white kids were constantly buying and selling drugs, but they were never busted cause the police looked
    the other way.
     
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    Concession accepted.
     
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    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    The revoltong idea that facts matter?
     
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    What does that have to do with facts that point out the complete invalidity of BLMs agenda and sticks a fork in the systematic racism BS?

    More proof the left hates facts when it showcases the absurdity of their talking points negating their agenda.
     
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    Blacks kill blacks in black neighborhoods and whites kill whites in white neighborhoods. There is very little cross over. Blacks kill about the same number of blacks as whites kill whites and do it with one seventh the population.
     
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    More conclusions driven by false narratives.

    Doesn't it bother you that your entire agenda us based in bull?

    Oh, I see now. You want us to cherry pick the facts in support of your agenda. Or worse, you want us to ignore the BLM, claims of systematic racism, etc. Because if we bring it up... it isn't a response to a claim made, rather its projection.

    It's YOU. It's the left constantly arguing fake narratives, devoid of facts, devoid of logic and then playing a victim when called on it. Typical.
     
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    Still not locked and still a good point
     
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    It's not possible to be racially blind. You could claim it, but you could never do it. Race is part of your identity, just like you height, the color of your eyes, etc. Each of these is a kind of identifier- just like there are golden labs and black labs, but neither is discriminated against, because both have similar characteristics. Now if black labs were 10 times more likely to bite you- you would be especially wary of the black variety. If the goldens were the more likely biters, the reverse would be true. Conduct controls your image- and the things that identify a group also for the expectations of their conduct.

    Be a really good idea for the black community to start emulating it's better people- and there are a lot of them. Instead, they commonly call those who excel name like Oreos, Uncle Toms, etc.
    When that choice changes, what we see will change too.
     
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    If Blacks over represent VIOLENT CRIMES then there is a logical reasoning that they would be involved in a higher percentage of violent arrests. And if you are under the assumption that in such a situation of police attempting to arrest a black person who is struggling that they would have equal number of deaths on either side, then I dunno what to tell ya?

    In the situation of an arrest all the advantages are on the police's side. All that's in question is how much force is needed for the arrest and you are correct, sometimes it is fatal. But to toss out a dumb ass statement like "99 percent of black people do not kill cops" has nothing to do with anything. I would HOPE 99 percent of black people do not kill cops.

    The reality is they over represent on violent crimes.
    https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/1417426/unarmed-black-people-killed-police-blm/

    That sounds about right. They over represent on violent crimes. Someone who commits a violent crime is likely to be violent during arrests...and as such would likely end up in a fatal confrontation with the police.

    1/3rd of 1000. 300 people a year. Woop a dee do. If you are worried about black people dying we can get talking about black on black crime. Gang violence. That sort of thing. The numbers dwarf that of those killed during an arrest.
     
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    I was pointing out the high percentage of Black American Citizens NOT involved in violent crime. You are judging the entire race by the small percentage that are.
    Why is that?
     
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    Not sure I did that chief. I said that 99 percent of blacks didn't kill a cop has nothing to do with anything.
     
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    This ‘statistic’ was calculated years ago (2016) by Heather MacDonald, mistress of Misrepresentation when it comes to numbers. To make matters worse, it’s misdescribed in your OP.

    The claim is not that police officers are 18.5x more likely to be killed by a black person than they are to kill a black person. Her claim is that they are 18.5x more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person is to be killed by police. The difference is important - they are both probabilities of being killed, not killing.

    There’s a lot wrong with the numbers she used (another post in itself) but taking them at face value, here’s how she worked it out:

    36 blacks shot by police - black population 19,000,000 = 0.18/100K shot by police
    21 police shot by blacks - police population 628,000 = 3.3/100K shot by blacks

    3.3/0.18 = police are 18.5 times more likely to be killed by blacks, than blacks by police.

    So sure, police officers may have a greater chance of being killed but who’s more likely to kill?

    19,000,000 blacks killed 21 police officers = 0.11/100K of black people killed police officers
    628,000 police shot 36 blacks = 5.73/100K police officers killed black people

    5.73/0.11 = Police officers are 52 times more likely to kill a black person than a black person is to kill a police officer.

    And that's a gross underestimate because she pared blacks killed down from 295, to include unarmed black men only.

    She also neglected - can’t imagine why - to calculate the likelihood of police being shot by white people in which case she’d have found that police are 158 times more likely to be killed by a white man than a white man is to be killed by police. (using her number of 31 killed by whites).

    And, to conclude, that a black man would be 5.8 times more likely to be killed by the police than a white man.

    Reminder: This is all using HER numbers.
     
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    I shouldn't have to explain this: "Progressive" policies -- enacted over the past six decades primarily by paternalistic White liberals imbued with a savior complex -- have destroyed the black family, destroyed personal responsibility, destroyed personal ambition, and have created a disporportionately violent and dependent class, and ultimately views Americans of African Descent as "less than."

    The faster black Americans can move away from these harmful policies, the faster they will recover from the damage inflicted upon them by their White saviors and the racial grievance industry that profits off their misery.
     
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    Fallacy, red herring. The poster made no such claim.
     

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