Bolton's manuscript has leaked.......confirming what we knew all along.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With respect to claims Trump can stop Bolton from testifying, executive privilege can be used to prevent someone from being forced to testify. It cannot prevent a willing witness from testifying. As lawyers put it, it is a shield, not a sword. If Bolton wants to testify he can. Secondly, it is almost certainly true that there is no judicial review of any decisions made by the Senate in an impeachment trial. Everything about how to run a trial is left in the hands of the Senate and the text is clear: “The Senate shall have the sole power to try all Impeachments.” The “sole power”...............................meaning the decisions are unreviewable.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you're singing the right tune. After all, it's the only tune that's left.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see you guys have the latest talking point memorized.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What, in your mind, constitutes an impeachable offense. Similar charges were leveled on Clinton.
     
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    Give it 24 hours and the bombastic nature of the Bolton story will change. Late tomorrow we'll find out that nobody has the book transcript but an anonymous source will say the saw it.
     
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    Bolton's a war criminal and a sociopath, as is Adam Schiff. Just shows how pathetic the democrats are when they pin their impeachment hopes on these guys. He should be impeached for Yemen not holding up an arms sale for arms we shouldn't be selling in the first place. Obama also should have been impeached for Yemen along with Libya.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As we can see from the angry attacks on Bolton now that his book has contradicted Don's laughable "I did nothing wrong" meme, it is of vital importance to maintain the infallible Dear Leader narrative that Bolton have his character assassinated mercilessly. I think he's a neocon crank who should not have been put in the position he was in. But nothing he says in the book is inconsistent with what all the other witnesses have said.
     
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    Trump lawyers slammed in wake of Bolton book news
    https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...slammed-in-wake-of-bolton-book-news/23910506/

    Reports that John Bolton has written a firsthand account of the president’s direct involvement in withholding aid to Ukraine has left some Republicans confused and angry over the legal strategy by the president’s defense team — which has devoted much of its arguments in the Senate impeachment trial to arguing that no such firsthand evidence existed.

    One Republican operative who advises the White House said he was “flabbergasted at how stupidly they have handled this.”
     
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    Is this it? You got him this time?
     
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    The White House has had a copy of it since December 30 as a complete clearance to make sure there are no items of national security being divulged, before it is released for publication.
     
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    So?
     
  12. Texas Republican

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    The faster we end this, the faster the Dems can put together a second impeachment.
     
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    I heard it was “quarantined” until a few days ago.
     
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    treason for one.
     
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    Err, umm....but Ukraine got the aid and there were no investigation into the Bidens....do you think it possible that Bolton is just trying to sell a book?
     
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    So here is the pattern:
    1) Trump fires some loser from the White House.
    2) Said loser writes a book or has someone do it for them.
    3) Loser then announces release of book and starts book tour.
    4) Loser then claims to have some "bombshell" revealed in the book.
    5) Trump hating media spins and speculates on bombshell.
    6) Loser's book is bought by rabid Trump haters.
    7) Bombshell is really a dud.
    8.) Trump hating media moves on to the next faux outrage.
    9) Loser pockets the cash from those who bought the book.


    LOL! So predictable.
     
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    "The Washington Post reported that two people familiar with the manuscript confirmed the Times' characterization of Bolton's account."

    Sadly for the Dems, the Times account does not say that Trump required an announcement. And Trump, Mulvaney and others stated outright that he didn't tell Bolton that the aid was connected to anything.
    Wanting something is different than DEMANDING something.

    Again, Trump was interested in seeing that Ukraine was serious about cleaning up corruption.

    If Romney pushes Bolton to testify it is fine with me because it will further exonerate Trump.
     
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    The idea of Republicans, and especially Trump and his crew fighting corruption isn’t a credible argument. The most corrupt president we have ever had is fighting corruption in other countries. Get real.
     
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    One does not preclude the other and it is now becoming evident that Biden and family are corrupt.
     
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    What you say is a valid point. Prior to this, Bolton had no friend's on the anti-Trump side. I've personally felt he's a lunatic since he was in the Bush II's administration.

    But while I think his views are extreme, I've never been given any reason to question his sincerity and honesty.

    So, I may not like John Bolton, but I don't have any reason to question what he's said about Trump.
     
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    Ukraine got the money
    The prez of Ukraine said there was no hold up
    No quid pro quo in the entire call transcript (you forget in America people need to be PROVEN guilty, not whatever your own twisted interpretation of the truth is)
    You got nothing here just like you had nothing with 100+ mueller HOAX threads
    I can't wait to see your post aquittal threads. I'm gonna have to get popcorn AND beer for when those start rolling in. I bet it will be 10X more entertaining than the actual boring fake hoax trial itself.
    Don't disappoint me!
    Again, in case you didn't catch it earlier. you got nothing here!
     
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    Bolton was involved in the Iran/Contra scandal. He was also involved in The School of the Americas, and the political killings in Latin America that sprung from that. The death squads and all.
     
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    After Trump got caught, he released the money and stopped soliciting.
     
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    I guess there must have been something wrong with your computer/phone screen, or you just conveniently chose to ignore facts you don't like

    Ukraine got the money
    The prez of Ukraine said there was no hold up
    No quid pro quo in the entire call transcript
    (you forget in America people need to be PROVEN guilty, not whatever your own twisted interpretation of the truth is)
    You got nothing here just like you had nothing with 100+ mueller HOAX threads
    I can't wait to see your post aquittal threads. I'm gonna have to get popcorn AND beer for when those start rolling in. I bet it will be 10X more entertaining than the actual boring fake hoax trial itself.
    Don't disappoint me!
    Again, in case you didn't catch it earlier. you got nothing here!
     
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    "becoming evident." To whom? The FOX audience? The Justice department? Breitbart? Trump rally attendees? It sure isn't "becoming evident" to Sen. Lindsay Graham? He says reports of Biden corruption is junk.
     
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