BREAKING: Congressional Doctor Expects Up to 150 Million Americans to Contract The Coronavirus With

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  1. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, we know who this effects. It's a known community. It's a small community relative to the general population. I'd aver that the most susceptible are already under close clinical care with a significant number lodged in some form of health care facitity.

    Mobilize to protect them, everything else is a waste of resources.
     
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    The panic is pretty serious. We all gon die.

     
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    :roflol:

    Kids are showing to be almost immune. Parents, who are in the 20's-40's age range, are very low risk for serious cases of coronavirus. If grandma and grandpa live at home with the kids and parents, then maybe the parents should decide to pull their kids out of school for awhile. It would be more rational for each family to decide for themselves how much risk they're under. The panic is crazy.
     
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    Good!!! That means 10,000 people will start building their immune system to combat this virus. Hopefully not many are hypochondriacs and can get back to work with almost zero time off.

    Next
     
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    This doctor sounds like a liberal liar. Trump says there is nothing to fear. What a great leader.
     
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    Keeping schools open while this rages is insanity. We already know how to beat it. S. Korea has led the way. We obviously can't do what China did, but we can certainly do a lot of what S. Korea did, and one of the first things they did was shut down the schools. 12 states have already shut schools down. It will be all of them, soon, except maybe for the Dakotas.

    The reason isn't to protect young people and teachers. It's to tamp down community spread so the healthcare system doesn't get hit with this all in one wave. Children are walking disease vectors.
     
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    Write some people off. Very well.
     
  8. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree in general but delaying the progress of the infection curve for a month might, just might, be enough see the impact of spring/ summer drop the infection rate. It could save thousands, maybe tens of thousands an untimely death and perhaps a hundred thousand suffering a severe case and the damage it causes.

    We're in it, I'm all in. I disagree with the fear, hysteria and claims of severity but we're going down the path of full mitigation, lets do it. No half measures. We'll learn something from it that future generations will use. It might be how hysteria is harmful and how better to deal with pandemic panic. Lessons will be learned. Hopefully we will learn to protect those at risk instead of listening to the nattering nabobs of negativity and loosing the treasury on the healthy yelling masses.

    Cheers, have a Corona free day!
     
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    I'm more optimistic now than I have been for weeks. We're a big country, and there are a lot of resources we can draw upon.
     
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    America writes off 6575 people every single day. The first US Coronavirus blamed death occurred on Feb 29 in Washington state. Since then 50 others have succumbed to Coronavirus in the US. The most recent being an 82 year old woman with emphysema. In that same 15 day time frame 98,625 Americans have died from other than Coronavirus. Coronavirus has been responsible for .05% of the deaths in America during that time period. Just for comparison so far this year being killed by Coronavirus falls in between being killed by a bolt of lightning and being eaten by a shark.
     
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    And a third of US deaths are related to that Kirkland nursing home. A third of WA cases are from there.
     
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    Separate the at risk population. Kids in school or out are vectors unless locked down in cages.

    Closing schools is insanity.

    Reverse isolation. Keep the elderly and at risk separate.

    Cheers, have a Corona free day kids Pop's is headed to the hills.
     
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    You think that everyone over about 55 is in an old peole's home???

    The survival stats do NOT suggest that those people not dead all survive without hospitalization and other medical help.
     
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    55? Not at an elevated risk of significance. 60 maybe with commodities. The 60 to 69 age cohort has a 3.6% risk of fatality conditioned on confirmed case and is in poor health. The 70 to 79 cohort has a 8.4% risk of a fatal outcome. 80 and above a 14.3% risk moving to 21% if the case moves to critical.

    At 55, unless accompanied with heart disease, blood disorders, kidney disease, liver disease, compromised immune system, pregnancy, endocrine disorders, metabolic disorders, lung disease and neurologic and neurodevelopment conditions, you're stuck on the bus, a slob like the rest of us.

    Enjoy the ride.
     
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    you can't combine Every death scenario in the world and compare to 1 death scenario. if it spread like wild fire, infect 70% us pop, thats 210 million, lets just say 150 million if we dont slow down and just go about our live like before, you know concert/parties etc. at 1% mortality rate thats 1,500,000 death.
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/heal...19-flu-comparison-frieden-analysis/index.html

     
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    None of that addresses the lack of available hospital beds when thousands need care.
     
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    Schools have kids who ARE at risk.

    Also, staff can be at risk.

    And, the disease can spread even if nobody is symptomatic.
     
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    I have NO idea what your point is here.

    Death is not the only issue. Keeping COVID patients alive is risky, expensive, and such care is NOT unlimited. And, it is not limited to high risk indiduals.

    ALL experts on this disease indicate that social distancing of the population is the primary method of slowing this disease.

    And, you don't have to have symptoms to spread the disease.
     
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    What the heck is your point here.

    Are you seriouslyl suggsting that Trum''s old plan is better than Trump's current plan?

    Are you aware of the right wing messaging on COVID - Democratic fake news assault on Trump, etc.?

    What's your comment on Rushbo and Trish Reagan? What's your comment on Dr. Siegel on "Hemmner" on Fox (SP?)
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very, very few kids in school are at risk. Those are easily identified, are known and can be removed. Remove them now!

    I'm not sure your subclinical transmission claim is correct. Everything I've read is that there have been no reported transmissions prior to symptoms. I'm fairly certain in my memory on this one.

    Any staff that is above 60 or has some specific diseases need to be removed. Remove them now!
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm saying that those among us that are at risk are in a relatively small group that can be focused on to maintain their social separation and care.

    Focus on taking care of those at risk and stop demanding **** when it isn't needed. Focus!
     
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    Exactly. Focus on those at risk. Spend the money on them. Protect them. Move them to safe places. What ever it takes.
     
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    OK, that's your opinion.

    Experts have closed schools in wide areas.

    Maybe you live in Wyoming and your governor wants to do something else.
     

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