Burger flippers demanding $15/hr

Right? You could get a job working the front counter at a hotel making 15$+ just with the soft skill you learn working at McDonalds.

 

I was homeless until a few months back, when I finally got sober. I fix computers when I can, but don't make much doing it, it's been dead for awhile now, I'm still waiting on a call back from an actual job. The only reason I have any money is because today is my bday, and my dad sent me a little. The point is, I'm about as poor as they come at right now, and I don't hate other poor people, and I would support a 10/hr min wage, but 15? Come on man, surely you realize many jobs don't merit that much per hour...(and I think your avatar agrees with me!) LOL

 

krashsmith81
Where do you live?

Certainly the Burger Flipper in East Wolf's Ear, Idaho
can manage with less than the Burger Flipper in NYC.
Both locations need Burger Flippers and I
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=405547&page=5&p=1064935324#post1064935324
YOU work 40 hours a week, employed in America,
YOU should be able to live a Middle Class life.
Read on at the above link or not


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If it costs 60 bucks fewer people will be going out...

The best part is that these mental midgets don't understand is that if wages were 15 dollars an hour businesses would just layoff workers...

There are only three things that can happen here:

- Business' lay workers off to offset overhead.

- Raise prices.

- Downsize product.

Of course these burger flipping morons don't understand any of that which is why they're flipping burgers in the first place.

Of course the typical progressive thinks it would just be business as usual...

 

Deflect all you want. Tell us all about what stuff cost when there was no minimum wage at all and point out how prices never increased, or how cheap Nikes got when they were outsourced to sweatshop factories paying 25 cents an hour.

Never mind, you can't make a case for that, either. Let's see, a Mickey D's with 5 people working during lunch rush from 11:00 to around 2:00 raises it's pay $5/hr. Their average number of orders are, say, around 200-300 an hour, very low number of orders for a Mickey D's, the burger joint I worked at during college averaged 800-,1100 an hour. So 600 orders minimum divided into $75. Do you think we're looking at a labor cost increase of $5 bucks per order now? Is their $3.50 burger now going to cost $8.50? Throw in SS matching and whatever. If you do come up with something over about 13 cents go back to school. A Mickey D's that slow would fold anyway, due to the pretty high franchise costs, but let's pretend they only get 200 orders an hour during rush.

Figure a cheap order at around $2, dollar menu and a $1 drink. What percent does the price increase on that? Then get the rest of the crayons out and try to figure out what percentage it adds to the cost of their $5 meal deal thingies.

 

I wonder when they'll wake up and realize that people like you hate the poor and want to outlaw their jobs.

 

Food for thought
http://www.theblaze.com/contributio...erve-15-an-hour-to-flip-burgers-and-thats-ok/

 

Exactly, supply and demandd. Anyone can flip a burger hence there is a never ending supply of workers. It's not like these people have skill and can walk out and hurt a business - they can easily be replaced.

Also, the majority of businesses pay way more than minimum wage.

 

Wake up people. Automaton is about a year away from removing most employees from burger places. Raising wages will increase the desire to do sow here there is a need type of thing. If payroll becomes more expensive then investing in automation than good bye $15 an hour jobs. And hello to my order being made correctly by a machine. More likely be more personable too.

 

Part of me wants to agree with you, I'd love to live a "middle class" life....but, for example, I've had people pay me to pick up trash off the road before, and stuff like that through a day labor place, if they rose the min. wage to 15 an hour, I suspect there would be far fewer trivial jobs that people would go through the day labor place to hire people for, I just don't think any old job is worth that much money, but I respect your point of view (trying to be polite when I disagree with ppl today, it is my bday after all, and I'm in a good mood)

 

When did it become un-American to ask for a raise?

They ask for $15 - hoping to get $11 when the negotiating is done.

$15 an hour may seem high, but if they're living in NY or SF, they'd be homeless or living with 10 other people - or traveling 4 hours a day on the bus.

 

get a clue, man. if yoou can't make at least 60k per year, don't LIVE in NYC! Just cause you WANT something doesn't mean you can afford it. Get real. JB Hunt will pay for your training as a truck driver. Drive OTR and in 3 years, you can have 100k in the bank, after tax. Then you can do other things and work up to making big money without even trying.

 

How come there is "no doubt" of that? Is every increase in the price of meat or bread passed on too? I've always been told that an increase in overall industry costs is a golden opportunity, for if you can meet it without raising your price you will increase your market share. If, of course, you feel you are "entitled" to the same profits you've been getting all along nobody will shop with you and you will go out of business. Thus does the "invisible hand" ensure maximum efficiency. That's capitalism, something I thought conservatives knew something about at one time.

 

Right, and Green Bay couldn't even sustain 11 bucks and hour let alone 15. You do realize teachers make 11 an hour in Green Bay...

See different regions have different economies and economic standard of living.

15 wont get you anything in NY or Chicago but in some places you can live like a king, and those economies would be drastically interrupted.

Hell, I can get a decent place in Southern Illinois or Western Illinois for 200 bucks a month, but here in the Chicago area - you can't even rent a room for 200 a month. hell a studio apartment runs 550-800...

So a federal minimum wage of even 10 is out of the question.

It's just not economically viable in some regions.

 

Nobody has a right to the money in another person's wallet.

 

Then Econ 101 would indicate that if all McDonalds workers in NYC went to work for Truckers, then McDonalds would have to pay more for workers in NYC or they would have to do without. It would also mean that there would be an oversupply of truckers and they could lower their wages. It's not just a one way street.

 

True. But then if McDonalds has to pay to train all new crew ...?

When did it become un-American to ask for a raise?

 

Your negotiation concept is definitely at work.

In Seattle, all the talk is about our $15/hr minimum wage plan. But, in actuality that plan goes into effect over a period of years - depending somewhat on the size of the business. The first increment came into effect recently, raising to about $11, I think.


I might also just interject that Seattle has had one of the highest minimum wages in the nation for quite some time, and we're among the top runners in economic growth.

If you want to see policy disaster, go to Kansas and witness the GOP revolution - well, maybe just read about it!

 

It's not un-American to ask for anything. It is, however, un-American and unjust to use government force to force people to pay you what you demand.

 

If it costs 60 bucks less because of cuts in labor costs then thousands more wouldn't be able to afford to go out.

The best part about the mental midgets who think crashing wages to nothing is that if there are fewer consumers with disposable incomes they'll be laid off anyway, and businesses will close up entirely, along with the mental midgets who can't do arithmetic and believe dumbass gibberish put out by the GOP.

All of that has been going on already, so no points here; the same morons that fall for that argument also claimed tax cuts for the financial sector was supposed to spur all kinds of magical job creations n stuff; it didn't.

Many of them aren't 'morons', they're products of neo-liberal and conservative policies that pour money into Wall Street at the expense of the U.S. economy and Treasury.

They are right, it will be business as usual; little or no job creation outside of part-time low wage service jobs, and not even enough of those to match normal population growth.

 

Anyone who makes a career out of flipping burgers is a moron.

And to end this debate really quick - 15 buck an hour is nonsense and minimum wage should be tied to micro-economy (regional economy).... it's really that simple - there is no logical way to do it beyond that... Those pricks out there protesting are just greedy and stupid. They're going to tax themselves out of a job if they're not careful.

 

I hope this happens. It will motivate me to cook ALL my food at home myself and overall be healthier.

 

The burger flippers should first prove themselves worthy of higher pay.

 

SO in other words, you have no argument. .

 

I'm not going to read the entire thread to know whether this has already been posted or not, but this article by Blaze writer, Matt Walsh, nails it.

Absolutely nails it.

NO Liberal can defend $15/hr fast food salaries after reading this.

I'll just post some of the article.

Finish reading at the link.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributio...erve-15-an-hour-to-flip-burgers-and-thats-ok/