California Baptist pastor praises Orlando massacre

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by superbadbrutha, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,644
    Likes Received:
    13,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There are many, many IFB churches in the US and until you look and see what they believe, you should reserve judgment.
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Fair enough. I understand my Church which never would talk the way that Pastor did, but I personally won't judge him by comments like he made. I know plenty about Muslims and am really shocked their comments don't make it much onto this forum.
     
  3. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,644
    Likes Received:
    13,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    While I don't know you very well, I think you would walk out of an IFB church.......
     
  4. gchamblee

    gchamblee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2010
    Messages:
    1,377
    Likes Received:
    39
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Every group has people who vocally support actions that they would not themselves act upon. There are Christians that approve of the killings, even though they would never kill another person themselves. There are muslims that approve of the killings, even though they would never kill another person themselves. It is not difficult to find the fringe crazies when trying to make a political point, but it is intellectually dishonest to use that as proof of a widespread problem with large segments of our society. I understand how those that hate people who believe in a God cant pass up the opportunity to use this horrible event as justification for their personal crusades against the people they hate, but thats all it is. For those of you that feel you can judge what kind of person I or anyone else is based solely on our beliefs, you are quite shallow and unworthy of being taken seriously.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Wall okay then. Since a heterosexual explained it to me. LMAO

    If I can't get the goat of some posters, the interest here will die.

    They love an argument. Notice how shy they are?

    A saying for heterosexual men that does not offend me is a man will have sex with her if she moves. I have seen some dirt bag women get laid by horney men. Me, I opted for the beautiful.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    My son in law once attended a baptist church in the Sunnyvale, CA area. But I went with him and my daughter one time for a celebration of Christmas where they had people playing bells. Very very well done too in my opinion.

    As to Baptists in general, I never really chat with them.
     
  7. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,644
    Likes Received:
    13,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    These people aren't normal Baptists (my grandmother was one)....

    The IFB only read the KJV from 1611, remain "separate" from their neighbors, the world etc.. and believe they are the "true Jews".. Most of their pastors only have a HS education, advocate killing gays... and it gets worse from there.
     
  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    155,404
    Likes Received:
    39,562
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "In the 18th century, Great Britain had become the world's largest slave trader.[2] During American Revolution against Great Britain, all the states banned the international slave trade."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Prohibiting_Importation_of_Slaves

    And federal government was in the process of codifying that under federal law and completed that three years after the first Barbary war which of course means it had long been banned before the second one.

    So your point being what? And what does then have in common with 2016, not American slavery but everything else I stated.
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Me, I got the idea we Christians are whom are hated.

    [video=youtube;_PExVfzRsKU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PExVfzRsKU[/video]

    - - - Updated - - -

    You know that despite what Muslims tell you, killing humans is wrong.
     
  10. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    155,404
    Likes Received:
    39,562
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You've been dodging mine, so post your list of all these mass shootings in the name of Christianity you assert to mitigate the ones the radical Islamist are committing.

    No I addressed your question directly and asked you to back your attempt to mitigate the terrorist acts committed by radical Islamic terrorist with these claims that Christians commit such mass murders in the name of their religion so that I can tell you how wrong they are to do it. The fact is YOU are the one trying to say it is OK for the RIT's to commit their acts because of all these asserted Christian acts.

    So start posting them
     
  11. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    155,404
    Likes Received:
    39,562
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But wouldn't it me pragmatic to concentrate on the ones who are actually doing it rather than try to mitigate it with the every other group does it. Just refer to my list in post #148. Any other group come close to doing such acts in the name of their group?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Post here for all to see then.
     
  12. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    Messages:
    56,891
    Likes Received:
    21,025
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :roflol: Usual MO
    Other poster is dodging followed by crap that had nothing to do with original post....and the "command" to do as I'm told....how frustrating for you :)
     
  13. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,294
    Likes Received:
    20,055
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    My female wife of almost 30 yrs will be surprised to find out I've been gay all my life, me included, and my kids.
    But you must know everyone you post with. Not.

    The pastor can have his free speech. One should expect consequences if the hate is loud enough, especially if one acts upon the hate a person ignites.
    Perhaps not legal, but by the community.
     
  14. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,294
    Likes Received:
    20,055
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't think that is the case for most.
    They see christians and RWers saying all muslims must be kicked out of country or all muslims this, because radical islam if pretty active.
    So when radical or evangelical christians spew hatred the similar to the radicals, no one is yelling kick out all christians. Nor should anyone. But there is hypocrisy involved.
     
  15. Papastox

    Papastox Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2014
    Messages:
    10,296
    Likes Received:
    2,731
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What about all the imams who say the same thing? Where is your outrage about them or do you just have faux outrage for Christians?
     
  16. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Messages:
    17,041
    Likes Received:
    5,757
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Some folks are natural idiots. This pastor is one of them. All life is precious. One must remember those killed were someone's son or daughter, brother or sister, father or mother. There are in my opinion valid reasons for taking a life, sexual orientation isn't one of them. One of the ten commandment is "Thou shalt not kill," although I was told in the original translation it should have read "Thou shalt not commit murder." This preacher is nuts. He is no better than the Inman's who preach that killing infidels is a good thing.

    Whatever happened to, "Do unto your fellow man as they would do unto you?"
     
  17. anomaly

    anomaly Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2013
    Messages:
    2,667
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    38
    http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

    Ok now take your little mousy thingy and highlight the above...

    Click copy...

    Paste into your browser window...

    Hit enter on your keyboard thingy there...

    See that didn't hurt a bit did it?

    Or you could just click on the green little letter thingies there and you are done with one simple click!
     
  18. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    155,404
    Likes Received:
    39,562
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How many does he represent since he only represents his church and compared to how many radical Islamic terrorist out there and how many terrorist attacks have his follower committed?

    And why do you like to give looney's so much credibility like you do with Duke?
     
  19. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    155,404
    Likes Received:
    39,562
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's YOUR cite you claim supports something not mine. Do like I do and post the parts which you believe support your claim or at least a flavoring of them. What is the most recent mass murder committed in the name of Christianity on your list for instance.
     
  20. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2014
    Messages:
    68,085
    Likes Received:
    17,138
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Perhaps the interest in homosexuals is your undoing. I sort of got the idea .... but sorry since you claim to not be one.

    I am just like you. I too claim not to have homophobia though at times am accused.
     
  21. anomaly

    anomaly Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2013
    Messages:
    2,667
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    38
    And you can easily click and read for your self as I pointed out originally "if you care to".

    Do or don't I don't much care one way or the other... but you did ask for a list and I provided it for you... take it or leave it!


    As I personally have made no "claim" it's gonna be a little difficult for me. You asked for a list of christian atrocities and I provided one...

    Now it seems you want me to hold your hand and read it to you...WTF????


    Again It's not my list!

    You asked for a list and I provided you with one... read it or don't.

    But if you are not going to read the things you ask others to provide for you...

    Then in the future just skip the asking part and move right on into the denial part and be done with it!
     
  22. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,350
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
  23. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Dresden, where 527 USAAF bombers took part in a wholly senseless slaughter? There is no start to a Muslim conversion; what a stupid thing to say. Do you know why Khan wants to ban these ads? Of course you don't:

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...ody-shaming-adverts-on-the-tube-a3269951.html

    "...advertising policy which DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL IMAGES of PEOPLE in their underwear or swimming gear..."

    Nice try, but fail.
     
  24. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :eyepopping:
    I never thought I'd ever see the day when that distinction had to be made!
     
  25. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,644
    Likes Received:
    13,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There are lots of Independent Fundamental Baptists ... and they are not like Baptists...
     

Share This Page