Canada vs the USA

thanks to dishonest gun sellers in the southern states.

 

So if they are already dishonest, would they fear another law?

 

Criminals obtaining guns in other States.

 

yes, they would.

more penalties means more to fear

 

You know that is simply not true.
Criminals do not fear laws, Murder is Illegal" so are many drugs, put Criminals in Prison.

 

They are already committing multiple felonies. Most UBC violations are misdemeanors.

 

so we should have no laws and penalties since criminals "don't fear them"?

 

No, punish Criminals, put them in Prison !!!

 

Should we have laws that criminals don't fear because we don't enforce them, or should we enforce them to make criminals fear them?

 

Citation needed.

 

And Disambiguation requested.

 

you all used to be a cesspool of crime and murders and you have had nutty anti gun idiocy on your books back when NYC was a murder capital.

 

If strong gun laws make cities safe like NYC, how do you explain Chicago? Baltimore? Oakland? They have equally strong laws.

 

How do you explain Alaska, Louisiana, Missouri, Alabama, Montana.....etc. lax gun laws and high per capita gun deaths

 

that's silly-if LWOP for murder or 20 to life for armed robbery doesn't deter someone, how does a year for having a banned gun under NY state law deter someone?

oh come on-hassle honest gun owners and that will keep murderers from killing, robbers from robbing, rapists from raping and gangstas from being gangstas!

 

LOL, lets see 20-40 for armed robbery
federal penalty for felon in possession-5-10

that doesn't deter them an additional year for violating NYC's stupid gun laws isn't worth spit and you know it

 

I can only say that Montana and Alaska are almost all suicides and have high gun ownership rates so no gun law will reduce those suicides. Louisiana’s numbers come from poverty stricken, high crime areas in New Orleans, and Missouri’s numbers come from the worst areas in St. Louis.
Your mistaken if you think you can keep guns out of the hands of the violent recidivists in these cesspools.
It would be more effective to incarcerate recidivists and work to help the economics of these inner cities.

 

Then provide evidence, beyond reasonable doubt, that the murders are being committed by legal firearm owners, rather than anyone else.

 

A claim for which there is no evidence. However there is evidence, from the ATF no less, that a significant number of firearms found in criminal possession, were originally sold in the state of New York, in full compliance with the licensing and registration requirements.

 

There is evidence that gin control reduces suicides.....certainly enough for a form

 

The form doesn’t work without registration and you know this.
In fact everything you propose hinges on passing universal gun registration.

 

Yep. Much like gun registration that already exists in some places

 

Like Australia and the UK?

 

Fair enough, just be prepared for me to point out that registration must be passed first, every time you say that it’s JUST a form.
It’s obvious that your real goal is registration.