Carbon tax...good or bad?

Clearly there are differences of opinion on this
You have expressed your opinion

However, it is disingenuous to call this a “. Fad hypothesis “
It may be an incorrect hypothesis
But it has been advocated for at least 20 years
And it is advocated by the vast majority of governments and scientists around the world
This reality does not make the hypothesis correct
But it certainly makes it inaccurate to refer to it as a fad

 

they have shown that reflective roofs can help if enough do it

 

Unlikely at best, minimal effect regardless....it would simply reflect more heat to be trapped.

 

Fad is the perfect word just like the precedding anti logging fad that lasted decades and did irrevocable damage to our forest and cost people their jobs and lives.


/fad/
noun

1. an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived and without basis in the object's qualities; a craze.

 

actually they were surprised how much effect it did have, green houses have shown this

 

I would be interested in reading this Data if you please, but perhaps a greenhouse is not the best testbed for this?

 

was a show I watched

 

http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/white-roofs-may-increase-global-warming

Just Sayin'

 

“especially one that is short-lived

and without basis in the object's qualities; a craze”


So.... not short lived
And whether or not it is without basis is your opinion

 

And the very biggest consumers are middle class (and above) First Worlders. The more 'liberal', the worse they are. It all comes down to air travel and imported foods and other consumables.

 

Yes, it's a pipe dream. But if mono-ag fails at any point, smallholding will be a necessity. If you're not braindead, and have access to a couple of sunny window ledges, or better yet -10 acres + water, you'll have learned how long before you need it.

 

Short lived is s subjective term and the AGW hypothesis fails every real world test so IMO this is a fad. Reasonable people may differ on that.

 

We grow a big garden every year that my wife works her ass off in and even that can't supply all our needs. A couple of sunny window ledges will look pretty with some veggies growing on them but its just decoration.

 

Carbon tax...good or bad?

A tax on Carbon is pointless beyond being a feel good, look we're doing something measure.

 

If you believe the scientists that humans have caused 2 F of warming so far by pumping out hundreds of billions of tons of CO2, a greenhouse gas, and you believe the Trump Administration scientists who estimate 7 F of warming in the 21st century, we need to take real action now.

A carbon tax is actually a very light solution because it only discourages CO2 emissions rather than outright banning them. We can lower other taxes like the sales tax and the income tax to make up for the tax increase.

 

And it MIGHT keep a couple hundred tons from being pumped out...too little too late. Carbon Taxation is pointless and may very well allay worry enough to prevent REAL action.

Likely it is too late anyway since we tipped over into methane release regardless....that is gonna be the coming nightmare.

 

Yes it is subjective
For most people 20 years is not short lived

Yes. That is my point. It is a matter of opionion as to impact ( if any) of co2 on climate

 

Could well be as you say
I am 70 and will likely not live to say i told you so.... might as well enjoy the world we have

 

I wont be here either so I really don't care either way. Mostly I just shake my head and think of the prepper mentality most deniers live in.

Good luck Prepping for this one Bubba.

 

Good for you guys. That's considerably more than most! And remember, at this point it's only learning, not surviving. Learning can be done on window ledges and produce all your fresh herbs plus year round leafy greens and tiny tomatoes. Even then, fresh herbs are expensive to buy, and constant access to organic, freshly picked leafy greens can have a significant positive impact on health. Two very good reasons to do it, quite aside from any kind of 'prepper' nonsense.

As regards your own garden - if you want it to get anywhere near sustaining you, it must be year round, not 'yearly'. I realise that in some climates that isn't possible, in which case a glasshouse is a must. We grow all year here (being in a milder climate), and it's the only way we can produce as much as we do.

 

Depends what kind of 'prepping' they're doing, and prepping for what. If it's stockpiling cans of beans and cleaning the guns in the event of an inexplicable Govt brainsnap, it's hilariously stupid. If it's stockpiling land and farming skills in order to become less dependent upon the system, it's not at all stupid.

 

It encourages a fake debate: the interventionists who want a marginal change in price versus the plastic libertarians who want a marginal change in property rights.

It won't be sufficient. The nature of capitalism, and its tendency towards market concentration, guarantees that.

 

Twenty years is about average for political fads to last and the air is rapidly going out of the AGW fad as the Paris riots illustrate.

 

imo a scientific fad, not political

I think you are wrong. I think paris riots are mainly not about agw

 

Those who are pushing the fraud that is AGM/Climate Change - their intention is to do as much harm to capitalism and the standard of living for everyone on the planet as they possibly can.

The agenda behind AGW is pure evil - that is much more than "a fad".

To be sure the fraud is advanced by many well-meaning fools who truly believe the fraud is true; and it is buttressed by many others who support it professionally for their own selfish reasons.

"Scientists" want the grant money; journalists and the media want to profit by spreading "scary scenarios"; and politicians want more power.

It's much more than a fad... the power brokers behind the scenes mean business - it is a very dangerous threat to liberty and prosperity.