Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

I understand why poor people want to be in America

But we do not need them here and cannot support them and our own poor people also

 

Whining about Obama or George W or Clinton does not serve as a diversion from the disaster Trump has now contrived.

 

Why is it a disaster? The kids are fed, clothed, and sheltered. US children are placed with state protective services routinely, when parents are arrested, or charged with abuse or neglect. Most, if not all of these children were endangered, and neglected while making the journey. Chilren sitting on top of moving trains is common. Children are crammed into semi trailers, and the trunks of cars too. Children die making the journey.

 

To liberals everything is political

The disaster they refer to is their hope that it hurts republicans in the next election

 

Throughout much of US history, there has been a pattern of an element of those tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free of previous arrivals trying to bar the door after they've made it through. Yet the nation has been built upon immigration.

"They're mentally deficient! They're dishonest! They're ignorant! They're dirty! They smell!, They're rapists! They're criminals! etc., etc., etc.!" are the perennial, xenophobic screes that are contradicted by the ineluctable progress the nation has achieved as its diversity has expanded. That progress continues.

Until advanced nations can adequately address the horrific conditions of those where families being allowed to live decent lives is not a possibility, they will come. Thus, human migrations are an inescapable fact that defines human history - people drawn to the possibility of a better life.

Is the US desperate for comprehensive immigration reform that regulates its flow whilst preserving the nation's ideals? Of course. Americans have been asking Congress where that is for the past decade.

They're still asking.

 

There are sooo many "separation" threads that I'm having a hard time seperating them. But on one of them I said exactly the same thing. Identity politics ahead of mid-terms. Dems have no platform. DACA, sanctuaries, and gun control. That's the DNC platform ... that, and we hate Trump a bunch.

 

If democrats tell the truth, they'll burst into flames like a vampire in the sunlight.

 

"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"

Trump's bureaucratic policy (about which he feels compelled to lie and try to blame others) is a disaster because it is morally unacceptable to the majority of Americans, including, conspicuously, far right religious celebrities, first ladies, and a growing number of Republican politicians who are registering their disgust over it.

 

E,g.,Trump lying about his bureaucratic policy being an involuntary response to a "Democrat[ic] Law."

There is no such law, of course, but his fake claim insinuates politics into his fake excuse.

 

I'm not sure what you're arguing? Trump can, but won't simply Defer Action like Obama did? And that's immoral? It's immoral to ingnore what these children are subjected to while making the journey, but you seem to have managed to justify the arduous weeks of suffering they endure. Only because you can't lay that on Trumps doorsteps.

 

You mean following the law = disaster. Liberal logic 101.

 

The thing is that before Trump illegals weren't sent to jail and so it wasn't necessarily to separate children from their parents. What other presidents did was put the families in family detention centers together, put them in front of an immigration judge if that was necessary, and then deported them.

 

The truth is that most folks prefer to stay where they are until conditions become so horrific that they are forced to leave because they love their families.

Address the inhuman conditions in those locales, and the immigration crises will dissipate.

Not easy, but genuine solutions are seldom easy.

Today is World Refugee Day

In marking World Refugee Day, which is observed on June 20th, the United Nations notes that on any given day thousands of families are fleeing from their homes to escape violence. The map we’re showing represents the movements of these refugees around the globe from 2000 to 2016. Each orange or red dot represents 17 refugees. The UN established World Refugee Day to increase awareness among all people that those fleeing war and oppression are not a burden, but a responsibility for all of us. It’s an occasion to demonstrate support for the millions forced to flee.​

 

America has no responsibility to fix the world

To put it in secular godless terms that liberals should understand,

When the first human climbed down out of the trees and planted seeds in the ground there was no gult-ridden liberal there to show them how

The backward nations have to solve their problems themselves instead of just migrating to America

 

Nobody told them that if they developed skilled fast fingers, teeth, and tongues they could make a meal out of that sunflower patch.

 

Whether Trump rescinds his administrative policy about which he lies and tries to blame others, or Americans' outrage over his administrative policy is addressed by the Republican-run Senate and Republican-run House, it is morally repugnant and unacceptable to decent folks everywhere.

If Trump refuses to provide leadership by indicating to the Republican-run Senate and the Republican-run House what remedial legislation he is willing to sign, they will have to take responsibility for passing legislation that might be vetoed by him, and his veto will have to be overridden.

 

The outrage is over children being taken from parents, and often with no way to reunite them later. They come here seeking asylum. There are others also seeking asylum but the outrage is over tearing asylum seekers' families apart. So your comments here are irrelevant.

Just so everybody knows, you said "Oh, and your by lines are simple. Socialism is the destruction of man's individual rights."

First of all no stable, functioning socialist economy has ever been created anywhere. There have been attempts, and there are some on-going attempts today. You said "socialism is the destruction of man's individual rights", and in defense of that BS propaganda you cite early, failed, rejected methods and strategies. Methods and strategies are not "socialism". You're confusing the effort with the goal.

 

They don't. That is a republican meme that springs from a desperate attempt to spin and confuse the facts.

 

Congress can change the law to something more sensible

Such as no questions asked sameday deportation back to mexico

 

Liberals argue against any limits on legal and illegal migration

Thats not spin

Its a fact

 

One thing that isn't a lie, is that Obama did the same thing. There have been several picture posted of room full of children setting on the floor in big crowded cages. Where was your complaining then? You guys didn't say anything. Now we have this **** to contend with. I am so sick of Liberals having two sets of standards for the same thing. You say nothing when your side does crap.

"Guatemalan mother sues Trump after being separated from her 7-year-old son at the border"

 

No they don't. They argue against wholesale, indiscriminate deportations and separation of families. So you see, your argument IS spin.

 

We are faced with a wholesale, indiscriminate flood of illegal aliens showing up at our borders

Liberals are ok with the immigration system being overrun by massive numbers of migrants

 

That IS a lie! If Obama did the same thing, then explain why Sessions wrote up his "Zero Tolerance" rule that Trump signed on April 6.

It's a well-known FACT that this is all Trump's and Republicans' doings.

Regarding "us guys" saying nothing under Obama, if it was the same then and Republicans are the "family values party", then why didn't you and the Republicans scream and do something about it then? See, your story doesn't line up and that is because it conflicts with FACTS.

 

So you repeat your rant and that is your answer? Cute. That's what 5-year-olds do.