China’s playing the long game, and is making key moves to hedge against Trump’s tariffs

Sorry. Returning to the "good ole days" is limited the old and senile

 

What on earth does that mean. What does "restraint" have to do with preserving freedom? What does it even have to do with "playing the long game?" If long term planning is your thing, federal government is not a place to get it done.

Your point?

 

No. It is only the old and senile that understand its value.

 

Sadly, they just think they do. And then they get lost in the internet

Really sad to watch

 

No comment. It would get me banned.

 

Expansion of government power is always at the expense of personal freedom.

Nothing, that's the point. The pretense of this topic is that China is play some clever well thought out "long game" that is defeating our strategy and that's not the case at all.

We aren't a centrally planned society, we are a Free Society. We follow OUR plans, not those of central government. As Ronaldus Maximus The Great One so eloquently put it:

We are a People with a Government,
Not the other way around!​

Did you read the linked article?

China thought they could do without US Soybeans and Pork, and they can't. Trump's sense of his negotiating partners is uncanny, but that is common among very stable geniuses with unusually large brains.

 

Why?

production in America is good for America

And there is no reason not to

 

China's just buttering Trump up.
I feel Trump getting ready to declare victory and go golfing like he did with NAFTA.
If I had a little stronger feeling I'd get back in the market, but I'm afraid Rush or Ann C. might shame him out of it.

 

While the US is in a no winner trade war with China, the rest of the world makes deals with China and so gaining access to the giant market.
And the US consumer is paying for it.

 

I, calling out your lie, has nothing to do with a banana republic. Or is that what you're wanting?

 

Say what?

 

Spoken like some uneducated fossil that doesnt understand global economics. Why pay an American $20 an hour for non-skilled labor, when you can pay a fraction of that overseas

 

So far none of that is true. It is talking points. Since China is screwing the U.S. the U.S. is the only possible winner in this economic battle. If we drop the tariffs, China wins. The cost of consumer products has declined slightly because China devalued its currency. In other words, China decided to pay for the tariffs.

 

So indeed you are aware of the links I've already posted to debunk these refutations but then claim I've given no links to back up my numbers. Strange game you play

 

Thats not new

The germans are always on the prowl for more money

 

The longest journey starts with one step. Trump is starting down the road of independence from China

 

Tariffs allow manufacturing in America

Whether its cheap china labor, no worker or pollution standards, currency manipulation, taxes or whatever tariffs level the playing field

 

You are happy selling only food to china while they make and sell finished products to America

Thats bad for America but globalists dont care

 

As I keep pointing out to you the world is hungry

If we dont sell to china sooner or later someone else will want our food

I don't want to give china the power to bully America that you are so comfortable with

 

The links didn't back up your numbers. Hence the word, refuted was used.

I didn't see any link from you showing China GDP was growing at 10% and now is 1/2 that.

 

RWism, started this globalism in the 1990s. Actually earlier, but it took a strong hold in the 1990s.

Now 25 yrs later, they want to undo what they created.
It hurt workers then and doing what they're wanting to do now, will hurt consumers.

Do RW globalists not like Americans?

Anyway, we sell more than farm goods. But those were the biggest exporters.
Now some are going out of business due to this trade war. Some of those Chinese markets may never come back as they will find other markets to buy from.

Any American company doing business in China, did so of their own free accord. Knowing the conditions before doing business there. Yet they still felt it profitable to do so.

Taxing American consumers over this isn't going to change it.
Maybe some companies will relocate to other Asian nations, but those unskilled labor jobs are not coming back.

Those unskilled labor jobs you complain about were good paying in USA due to unions.

 

China hasn't bullied us.
Yes, there are other markets, just not a large as China.

I am not being fooled as you are.

 

Scroll. My links showed average of 10% GDP for China.
You could try googling it yourself if you are in doubt. Pretty simple to do. Need instructions?

You will find stuff like this when you figure it out. I won't give you the link so you can find it yourself as part of my teaching process. You're welcome.

Annual GDP growth
Before the Chinese government introduced several economic growth reforms in 1979, the average annual real GDP growth rate in China was estimated at 5.3% (from 1960-197 according to the Congressional Research Service. In 2010 the annual growth rate stood at 10.4%. As the chart above shows there have been some steep inclines and drops in China's GDP growth rate with the effect of the global recession showing in 2008 when the annual rate dropped to 9.6% compared to 14.2% during the previous year.

 

And you sound like a globalist who does not care about America or American workers

The point of all this is not to provide cheap stuff to Give A **** libs but to keep the country strong

 

Of course china is bullying us by preying on the most vulnerable

Which in this case happens to be farmers

The choice they offer is either accept unfair trade practices or else

And if we do it gets even worse in the future