Chrissy Teigen openness about miscarriage gives strength to other women

Then state a POINT.


If you have one shouldn't that be easy?

 

Maybe you've just posted so much gobbledegoop that I can't make heads nor tails of it.


But once again, you seem to think you can read minds....and tell people how to think and feel ….and are failing miserably at it..


LOL One canNOT win an argument by saying, " You know I'm right".....when they haven't presented an argument or facts or even a concrete statement and do not answer INCONVENIENT questions...

 

You seem to want to eat your cake and have it too.
You can't say the woman can feel nothing over the death of her fetus in an abortion and then at the same time say we should feel sorry for the woman if she has a miscarriage.
Not if it's the same woman.

And if it's different women, then one of them is being emotional and illogical, and what she is feeling is not based on a valid reality.

That could be the woman who is grieving or a miscarriage, or, the other possibility, which you don't want to hear, the woman getting an abortion might have killed her own child and suffered a profound loss.
If you say that it is the woman grieving over a miscarriage who is just being silly, well then, that makes you look callous, and it goes against all our intuition.

Which leaves us inclined to believe the other side. Which is beneficial for the pro-life cause, and kind of detrimental to your side.

 

The woman can feel however she wants. I am just pointing out that she is WRONG.

We can use common sense logic to see that the women in both these situations can't both be right.


The fetus doesn't magically transform into a baby if she wants it.
Not in reality.
Only in her mind.
Only in some people's minds.

 

If you still can't see a point after that, it's going to leave me thinking you are intentionally obfuscating.

Or you just refuse to see what's right in front of you.

 

I NEVER DID.

However, if someone else wants to they are FREE TO.


It is very logical...in an abortion the fetus is unwanted, in a miscarriage , it is wanted, hence different women have different feelings

It's VERRRRRY simple....YOU are trying to twist it to something it's not.

SO WHAT ? !!!!

When TF did I say I didn't want to hear how any woman might feel? I DIDN'T.

Good thing I didn't say that....why are you?

Speak for your own "intuition"

WHAT "other side" ???

I would say that the Anti-Choice side, thinking ALL WOMEN are cattle and MUST THINK AND FEEL ALIKE are damaging their own side

 

For about the fourth time...WHO are YOU to determine how women should feel??[

SO WHAT ? !!!

 

OR, best bet, you have no point.

 

But the feelings are actually about the woman herself, not the fetus.

She only cares about her relationship to the fetus/baby and getting the chance to be a mother, not the life of the fetus/baby itself.

It's a selfish love, as Ayn Rand would say.

 

There you go AGAIN stating you know how ALL women feel and should feel.....BUT YOU are NOT the Ruler of how women feel or should feel......that is a fact.


…. they can feel anyway they want and YOU can do NOTHING about it ....nor do you know how they feel...YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY FEEL....



For about the FIFTH time...WHO are YOU to determine how women should feel??

 

If their concern was actually about the fetus itself, and it's wellbeing, apart from the woman, then it wouldn't matter so much whether or not the baby was "wanted", now would it?

 

Newsflash, FoxHastings; it doesn't matter so much how the woman "feels". Especially when those feelings are illogical (and have proven to be so, by the application of common sense and how inconsistent they are in two different situations)

It's not all about how she feels.

 

What makes no sense is disingenuously CONFLATING a WANTED versus an UNWANTED pregnancy and NEFARIOUSLY imposing a SPURIOUS condition that women MUST have IDENTICAL feelings in BOTH instances.

What kind of Cognitive Dissonance is required to make such a bizarre illogical conflation?

 

It makes perfect sense, to point out a double standard and logical inconsistency.

We aren't talking about how the woman feels. We are talking about whether those feelings are logical and based on something in actuality.
We are talking the value of the life of the human fetus, which does not change and remains the same between those two situations.

 

How is that spurious? Would you agree they are being illogical if they do not have identical feelings concerning the fetus in both instances?

"You're my baby and I love you... But only if I wanted to have a baby."

Do we, as a society, only value them if the mother values them?

 

What is ILLOGICAL is YOUR erroneous CONFLATION of two DIFFERENT issues!

 

You want to keep them separate, because you realize how hard it is to reconcile the woman's reaction between the two different situations.

There is a double standard here and a logical inconsistency.

Maybe you would care to explain what exactly makes these two different situations different, in a way that would make my argument not hold up.

 

Why? What TF difference does it make to anything?

WHAT "double standard"? There is NO "standard" to double..


You have NO point that affects anything in the universe.......

No, it doesn't.

The fetus has as much value as the woman wants to place on it.....as you have been told many, many times..

 

Women's reactions don't have to be reconciled.




LOL, do Anti-Choicer now want laws controlling even women's FEELINGS !!!

WOW that sounds like total dictatorship !!! Beyond dictatorship...

 

LOL, and I STILL don't know what Chrissy Tiegan has to do with any of this failed topic...

 

You're conflating how the women involved might feel and how the rest of us respond to them.

The fact is a woman could feel pretty much any way about either an abortion or a miscarriage. They'll have no real control over how they feel and it will be influenced by a whole range of surrounding factors. A woman might feel entirely differently about two abortions and might feel entirely differently about two miscarriages so assuming they will (must!) feel the same about an abortion and a miscarriage is just wrong.

And in any case, how a person (who actually cares about the woman) responds to her in any of these situations is again entirely down to their individual circumstances and what is ultimately best for all the people involved.

 

I am going to use this HYPOTHETICAL scenario to EXPOSE why your FALLACY does NOT hold up!

A close family member of yours is killed when a plane crashes on the same day that another close family member of yours wins the lottery!

Why do you NOT have IDENTICAL FEELINGS about BOTH events?

BOTH have an IMPACT on YOUR life but YOU have completely DIFFERENT feelings about those DIFFERENT situations.

According to YOUR fallacy you MUST have IDENTICAL feelings in BOTH situations.

Can you grasp that EXPLANATION or do you STILL not get it?

 

Do I really have to explain this?
Your example is not analogous to the two situations I cited.
In your scenario, something very bad happened to one family member, while something very good happened to another family member.
In what I am talking about, something very bad happened to both family members, in fact the bad thing that happened to them was exactly the same, but they just impacted you differently.
Because it was never really truly about that family member. It was all about YOU, YOU, YOU.
You don't really care what happens to that other person, you only care about how their death impacts you, how it relates to you.

You want an analogy, here's an analogy:
You have two family members. First one of them dies in a car accident and then a day later the other dies in a horrible plane crash.
The first family member you had a big life insurance policy on, so their death doesn't phase you one bit.
The second family member had just won the lottery and planned to share half of it with you. But they died before they could collect it. Meaning you will get zero money. You cry and cry and cry, and are in a state of mourning, and then you expect sympathy from me. Even though I met you the day before and you told me you were not the slightest bit bothered by the previous family member dying.

 

Why TF do you think people want sympathy, or anything else, from YOU ????


And why TF do you care so much about what other people feel??

It can't possibly affect you in any way ...

 

Again, trying to have your cake and eat it too.

You play the sympathy card whenever we're talking about leaving women alone and letting them kill their fetuses.