Christianity and Homosexuality

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  1. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Mutations happen in the context of changes within kinds, not a change of kinds. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolution Hoax/Evidences/2.htm

     
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    The Arabs and the Jews are "brethren" having Abraham as their ancestor. The whole Middle East conflict is caused by their dwelling together.
     
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    Having nothing to do with a vague phrase from a fictional book
     
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    The Bible mentions Israel becoming a nation again. Deuteronomy 30:3

    then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have mercy on you, and he will gather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you.
     
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    of course mutations happen within kinds - and these add up over time to create differences between populations.

    Scientific Fact - not false nonsense from those fundamentalist snake chamer sites.
     
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    Harry Potter mentions Bulgaria.
     
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    The Bible predicted Israel becoming a nation thousands of years before it happened. Isaiah 43:6 I will say to the north, Give up, and to the south, Do not withhold; bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth
     
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    Mutations have genetic limits that prevent macroevolution. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolution Hoax/Evidences/2.htm

     
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    ROFL - you have no clue what you are talking about .. and neither do these sites you post from ..

    Post something from your link that explains these limits - and critical review from the scientific community claiming that it has validity.

    Seen enough preposterous falsehoods from these fundamentalist snake charmer sites you love.
     
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    It's impossible for mutations to lead to macroevolution. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolution Hoax/Evidences/2.htm

     
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    ROFL - you have no clue what you are talking about .. and neither do these sites you post from ..

    Post something from your link that explains these limits - and critical review from the scientific community claiming that it has validity.

    Seen enough preposterous falsehoods from these fundamentalist snake charmer sites you love.
     
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    When did I say that I "desire control?"

    What evidence do you have for that?
     
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    Yes, it is marriage under the law, but is it marriage in the eyes of God? And if it is, where in the Bible does it say it?

    Sorry, are you actually under the impression that the US is the only Western nation which has same sex marriage?

    Let me be VERY clear: Biblical marriage is between one man and one woman UNDER GOD. However, you seem to be saying that two Satanists (a man and a woman) who are married under the law, are married in the eyes of God, no less so than two Christians (a man and a woman) who were married under God as part of a Christian wedding ceremony. Also, doesn't Mormonism allow marriage between one man and MANY women?
     
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    Yes, but you agree that they would have had to have married each other?
     
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    Nostradomus predicted the fall of the world trade center
     
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    No, it's the true Gospel of Jesus Christ as taught in Jesus Christ's Church that he has restored in these the Latter-days. However, everything I wrote exists in the New Testament. 1Cor.15: 39 - 42, "All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:" "Stars" has been reveled to us by the Lord to be the telestial glory or kingdom in heaven. So, nothing made up there in the resurrection in heaven.
     
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    The universe is the evidence. God said "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Is there a universe? Yes. So, there is a God. End of debate.
     
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    The word trade center did not exist in his time.
     
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    Cougarbear: Didn't say that, did I. See above about marriage being pure or in compliance with the laws and commandments of God. As for polygamy, let's say John is married to Sarah and Nancy. John is one man and Sarah is one woman. Same with John is one man and Nancy is one woman. Nothing wrong with that. Also, the Bible also says a bishop must be married to one woman only. Inferring that it was common for other men in the priesthood to be married to more than one woman at a time. So, that means my interpretation of the scripture is correct and yours is not.
     
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    no it isn't.
    this is hilariously moronic. I can show you dozens of other religious texts with different gods all claiming to have created the universe. your god is no more real than zuess or jupiter
     
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    Israel didn't exist in biblical times. My point was his claim was moronic, and just as valid as me pointing out nostradaumas predicted the world trade center collapse.
     
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    nowhere in the bible is any form of marriage sanctioned or prohibited.
     
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    This is fun:
    https://bishoppatbuckley.blog/2020/08/04/21-gay-popes-cardinals-and-assorted-catholic-leaders/
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    "While the Roman Catholic Church has long condemned homosexual acts as sinful, history nevertheless shows many of the church’s leaders engaged in same-sex love. There is evidence that of the 266 popes in history, nearly a dozen were gay, bisexual or, in one case, transgender. The following includes Catholic popes, cardinals, and archbishops who faced rumors or accusations of unorthodox orientation."
    What a bunch of hippocrites!
     
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    Jesus never wrote a single word. There's no gospel of Jesus.

    Saul/Paul wrote that. And he was a persecutor of Christians of that time and never met Jesus ever.
    He's a wolf in sheep clothing.
     
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    Well what would a secular wedding "done under the commandments" look like? I'm struggling to picture it.

    Why, because oral sex is the OPPOSITE to love and dignity?

    I now realise that I misread what you said.

    So you acknowledge that it's not the ONLY way, right?

    Is it because I specified "satanists?" What about a non-Christian man and a non-Christian woman who are married under the law as part of a secular wedding ceremony? Are they married in the eyes of God, no less so than two Christians (a man and a woman) who were married under God as part of a Christian wedding ceremony?

    Yes, but UNITED they are one man and two women! And marriage is a UNION is it not?

    No it doesn't infer that at all. In the same way that "an elder must be the husband of one wife" doesn't infer that it was common for other men to be married to more than one woman at a time. It's simply setting out a standard, to ensure that only suitable men are chosen for leadership roles in the church.
     

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