Climate Activist Greta

In other words, when challenged to tell the truth backed by evidence, you fold.

 

Do you need help ? Try NASA or AAAS or university websites.

 

Many batteries manufactured to tolerate heat are also higher cca as well. It’s just a fact. Sure, people can scrimp anywhere or on any age car. It’s irrelevant to your claim a car you know nothing about but it’s age and geographic location couldn’t survive your snowstorm. Never mind the claim the only way someone could have a 20 year old car would be to have it in Florida. Or the assumption a 20 year old car is a junker. All bizarre claims.

Can you prove that high viscosity non synthetic oil is the norm for people who want to get the most value out of their vehicle like the poster in question ? Any vehicle made after 1990 is considered to benefit from synthetic oil. So I don’t know about your certification claim. Never heard of it. I have a few 20-25 year old vehicles I run synthetic in.

More assumptions that have nothing to do with your claim. I know some “Florida drivers” that grew up driving in the Rocky Mountain snow conditions. They may be better winter drivers than you are.

So?

 

Hysterical. Like most of your posts. Thanks.

 

All of the ones outlined in science websites . Go for it.

 

Wrong. Batteries are either 11 or 13 plate design given a particular size. More plates, higher amperage potential at the sacrifice of thin plates more prone to heat damage and shorter life. Want both, you need a physically bigger battery which cost more then southern car owners need to spend. No life expectancy advantage of high CCA batteries which offer no advantage in Warmer climates....NONE.

Give me any driver who drives regularly over ice and snow over someone who did it twenty years ago, regardless of his braggadocio. . Anyone who knows, realizes it’s about practice and yearly acclimation.

What oil is best ? The API certified one recommended by the manufacturer with the correct weight changed at recommended oil change levels. Synthetic oil is no better then organic oils other then, they can be made at lower viscosity needed for tighter clearances of today’s cars, and they last longer before breaking down. Until then, there is no difference. If you’re using ordinary oil change intervals, using synthetic oil is a waste of money. There are cars with 300 plus thousand miles without synthetics that attest to this.

Sounds like you buy hype, not facts.

Lastly, for winter driving, nothing beats the correct tires. That’s winter tires with softer rubber and correct tread pattern, usually a poorer rain tire. There, several reasons along with traction electronics that make 20 year old Florida cars poor in snow, if you can even start them.

 

Science is not your thing ? Obvious. Maybe a philosopher can help you discover climate change facts. Let’s see, “ red sky at morning...” nope. Well, you’ll make up something.

 

Never claimed high CCA batteries had life expectancy advantage. You are making that up. I’m saying many popular batteries manufactured for heat resistance are relatively high CCA as well.

Agreed on average. Still irrelevant to the discussion.

Nope. Look it up. I don’t believe anything until I test it out. I do agree regular interval changes with synthetic is a waste of money.

Nope. If a product looks promising after first adopters have good luck I try it out in the real world in my equipment.

 

Ahh, why did YOU bring it up ?

 

To counter your silly assumption all older cars in Florida have junk batteries.

 

Sounds like you just disagreed then agreed in the same sentence. How could I be wrong if synthetic oil changed too early is a waste of money ??!
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/synthetic-conventional-motor-oil.htm
Longevity and resistance to thermal breakdown which is why they can extend the viscosity range, that’s it. No lubricating advantage beyond these advantages.

You have your own experience......you need to research. Everything I said is true.

 

This a silly comment you just made up. Obviously not what I said. Why not copy and paste and get right.

You also brought the idea that drivers from the Rockies twenty years ago drive better on ice.....laughable.

“More assumptions that have nothing to do with your claim. I know some “Florida drivers” that grew up driving in the Rocky Mountain snow conditions. They may be better winter drivers than you”

 

Nah, there are definite cold weather advantages to synthetics. On paper and in reality.

 

A worthwhile discussion. Synthetics maybe better in cold weather in newer cars and extremely cold weather for all, for starting purposes. , because the lower end of their viscosity range is lower then organic oils.

It’s little to no advantage in the south. Maybe, If your coolant leaks or thermostat sticks in older car and your car overheats, there is another advantage to less thermal breakdown; maybe your car will survive longer.

 

I have always traded or sold my cars at the ten year old mark, regardless of mileage. Then I buy one to two year old cars, or new if a model is particularly advantageous to do so. .
IMO, being more then ten years away from safety device technology is not worth the savings.

 

no I've decided I think he's right I don't even think I should take this car north of Orlando, apparently if I turned it off to put gas in it it'll never start again. Then I'll have to shamble home with my tail between my legs in shame. woe is me.

 

Good thinking. You probably don’t have snow tires and what the heck, you sure won’t want to walk all that distance through the flood waters.

 

You actually believe they had 10 feet in seven days.......and no one reported it .

 

Not worth the trouble. You make assumptions about cars, batteries, etc. I’m just trying to point out you have no idea if the original car in question could survive your storm or cold or whatever. Yet you said it couldn’t even though you know nothing significant about it. I couldn’t care less about the rest except.

You quote me and get it wrong. Where in the quote do I say twenty years ago? And the qualifier of “may be” makes my statement plausible. If you had added such a qualifier when talking about a dude from Florida’s car we wouldn’t be having this conversation. That’s my point.

 

Quite honestly I think the problem is is we've got a few too many people that have really overloaded with the Kool-Aid with this subject and now it's turning into crazy assumptions that somebody who takes a logical approach to this whole problem is apparently helpless, as is their vehicle.

deep sigh

 

No, your point was, you thought I was wrong generalizing about about 20 year old cars driven daily in Florida, batteries in general and southern cars in particular. It’s not like I guessed. The used car business in the north “ import “ some used cars from the south for sale. Regardless of how good they looked and how well they aged, Battery, tires and coolant system were always suspect as they aged. You can guess why.

 

Well not buying brand new cars is certainly wise in my opinion. But I’m not big on safety technology myself. I hate antilock brakes for one example. I drive a lot in mud and other conditions where not being able to lock up your brakes can cause big problems. I can see where safety features would be nice though. Rear view cameras etc.

 

You think your car can survive a winter in the snow belt as is ?
You’re overloaded on BS.

 

Here is the problem with your limited experience with southern cars. . Most in the entire snow belt in the United States don’t know how to drive a car in snow and ice without abs, traction control and in the last ten years, stability control. Your 20 year old car up here without those features, is a Junker. Add to it, sub standard battery and tires, and it doesn’t survive.

 

Smart folks live in the South, no snow, no salt etc.