Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

Yes it does.

And has been changing constantly since the earth was formed.

What caused the earth to plunge into ice ages long before man arrived on the scene??

What caused the Medieval Warm Period and the most recent Little Ice Age that we began to emerge out of in the 1880's??

SUV's??

 

Leftists are anti-science, anti-freedom, and anti-truth.

 

If the democrats want to get serious about climate change (and not used it as a tool for personal gain) then count me in!
You want us to take people seriously that fly private jets to attend global warming conferences?
I bet half of these clowns don't even recycle!
Do any of you climate change warrior wannabees even know what the hell you're talking about?
Fossil fuels are used in the production of Solar panels and Wind turbines.
None of these things can exist without DIRTY fossil fuels.
There are things we can do right now.
We can ENFORCE recycling.
We can have more telecommuting (this is huge, imagine half the traffic and half the emissions)
Are any of you planet loving democrats ready to trade your car in for a horse? I AM! Bring it! Bring some policies that will actually help the climate change issue. Oh that's right, you can't, you guys just like to cry about it and not DO anything about it.
P A T H E T I C ! ! !

 

That confirms the reported impact of global warming on the Great Lakes before 2016, and the wild fluctuations caused by climate change persist.

"The year 2012 had one of the most intense and long-lived droughts on record in the Midwest, part of which lies in the Great Lakes watershed... By 2013, the water levels throughout the Great Lakes basin were the lowest they had been in decades...

But in 2014, one of the harshest, lengthiest cold spells on record hit the region and brought ice coverage on the Great Lakes to over 90 percent. Then 2018 saw the wettest winter on record for the United States, and 2019 became the wettest year on record for three states bordering the Great Lakes.

Because of all of those factors, within just a few years, water levels on the Great Lakes went from being alarmingly low to being dangerously high.

Climate change is expected to make droughts even longer and more intense, to lead to milder winters and lower snowfall totals and to lead to more frequent extreme rain events. Any one of those could significantly influence the future water levels on the Great Lakes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/t...-unique-impact-on-the-great-lakes/ar-BB10g3NZ

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There is no rational denying the scientific data.

 

If you need to stick with the "Chinese hoax" theory, you can dismiss the science and all the responsible US government agencies that are confronting the reality.

There is a residue of hardcore ideologues that insist upon clinging to their dogma and denying the climatological data.

 

The data shows your OP is based on a false premise. Your “anomaly” is nothing new.

 

The plot shows the lakes going up and down for as long as records have been kept. The recent low levels are just a repeat of previous patterns. On one hand, the AGW crowd blames excessive storms and rain on AGW and then droughts on AGW.

 

Indeed, and the explosion of industrial emissions has now become a major factor, as predicted and confirmed by the scientific data.

CO2 levels (parts per million) over the past 10,000 years.
Blue line from Taylor Dome ice cores (NOAA).
Green line from Law Dome ice core (CDIAC).
Red line from direct measurements at Mauna Loa, Hawaii (NOAA).

Rising CO2 levels causes an enhanced greenhouse effect.
This leads to warmer temperatures which has many consequences.
Some effects are beneficial such as improved agriculture at high latitudes
and increased vegetation growth in some circumstances.
However, the negatives far outweigh the positives.
Coast-bound communities are threatened by rising sea levels.
Melting glaciers threaten the water supplies of hundreds of millions.
Species are becoming extinct at the fastest rate in history.
https://skepticalscience.com/co2-pollutant.htm
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Ideologues can insist that they can poop into the heavens with impunity, but responsible societies are taking responsibility based upon reality.

Crackpot notions such as it being a "Chines hoax!" is surrender.

 

One method used to mislead is to only show part of the ordinate axis so that it exaggerates. Then they use data from three different sources and try to show them as a continuous curve.

 

"... 2012 then became the hottest year on record for the United States... By 2013, the water levels throughout the Great Lakes basin were the lowest they had been in decades... Then 2018 saw the wettest winter on record for the United States, and 2019 became the wettest year on record for three states bordering the Great Lakes..."​

You can pretend that record highs and lows are "nothing new" if your ideological insistence allows you to withstand the blatant contradiction, I suppose.

Your federal government is confronting the scientific reality, not falling for that "Chinese hoax!" derangement: https://www.globalchange.gov/agencies

 

You don't see anything unusual about that statement. The lowest levels for the great lakes while at the same time it is the wettest winter on record. You think maybe something else is going on besides the climate?

 

Dude. Look at the data on lake levels. Your premise is pure bunk. Of course you don’t care because you are a science denier.

 

You are free to ignore the scientific data that has so many US federal agencies confronting the crisis, and focus upon what to do about that "Chinese hoax!" if your ideological dogma so dictates.

 

If you cannot accept the scientific data that so many responsible federal agencies do, stick with your "Chinese hoax!"

 

~ Oh boy ... Government confronting reality.

 

You guys make this so easy. I post data from the Department of Defense. The same Department of Defense you post a link to. You call my data a Chinese Hoax. Put down the crack pipe.

 

When is eco-doomsday? exactly
Seems to me that the climate is changing at about the pace of evolution, in other words, so slowly that I'm not at all concerned about staying ahead of it.

 

And there was certainly this one point in earths history We may not have burned fossils but there were certainly co2 emmisions FAR greater created then, than man has produces LOLOL

Dinosaur Era Had 5 Times Today's CO2

I was going to paste some Dino pic's but I felt we could try and be more adult and logical, FOR ONCE

 

Try this for your irrefutable science- and the way it reflects on people's perceptions and capacity.

Study: People Are Getting Dumber
New research finds IQ scores have been decreasing for decades, and the environment is to blame.

This is not due the environment in nature- but in the environment we place our children in; the environment of people's values, morals and ethics- deteriorating.
It's not stupid parents having more children than smart parents- it's the choice of irresponsibility, of letting someone else fix things, of taking the easy way, of letting your kids just grow up instead of raising them with structure and pride in themselves. Of failing to be responsible for making an adult out of your own child, and leaving that up to someone else. Average IQ's have been dropping for about 50 years.

The is a growing gap between the people who can cut it in life and the people who can't, and simply blame everything on others and demand somebody fix them their quality of life- their quality of world. Their entire measurement system of life revolves around them personally being emotionally satisfied, just like a small child. That includes the hapless wienies that rant over climate change and demand instant gratification while denying the vast advances that we have been making for 50 years, which are rapidly changing the very environment they bitch about.

Age is no longer a measurement of adulthood, we are now letting children grow up like weeds in the lawn- and becoming big in size, but mentally short in comprehension. This poses a far greater threat to our future than actual climate change- in part, because is it nearly impossible to correct, and those childish-minded adults are allowed to vote.

The way people amass knowledge today takes on a Cliff Notes quality. People don't read books much anymore. We search internet indexes for information devoid of context. We amass facts but not knowledge — and certainly not wisdom. The way we gather information tends to anesthetize rather than stimulate thought and the imagination. Apart from increasingly using passive media, we favor, in ways far more dramatic than in the past, sources that reinforce rather than challenge our beliefs.

This environment reflects a less literate, intellectually-curious population. In many ways, it also makes for one.

If only we were smarter we would know that we are dumb.

 

I am not ignoring anything. I am pointing out inconsistencies in your data.

 

Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

True but I'm not hiding. I am going on with life.

 

In the future I recommend you do a little research before basing a thread on false premises. You are hurting your cause by claiming to adhere to science and then posting blatantly inaccurate emotional appeals like the link in your OP.

When you double down, calling your own sources Chinese Hoaxes, you lose all credibility. Also, saying I believe AGW is a Chinese hoax is also blatantly untrue. I challenge you to quote anything I’ve posted here that even hints at that being my belief.

Carry on if you think it’s wise.

 

Where were we at in the solar cycle then?

 

But no one measures the solar declination anymore nor the passing of solstices.

This results in the unawareness that the sun is at least 2 degrees higher in the sky and solstices are 3 weeks early.

 

Are either of those relevant since the other hemisphere mirrors it?
Maybe more water in one than the other?