Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

Nobody denies climate changes. That's one of the many lies the climate cultist have spread. As to the cause? Well we lack the data to know. Humanity has less than 70 years of legitimate comparable data, so every few years or so they see a 'record' but what's that really worth? Billions of years of climate history is being ignored for a 70 year sliver in time. Absolutely ridiculous...

 

Well, one crackpot in government does dismiss the crisis as a "Chinese hoax!"

Fortunately, threatened municipalities and states are taking the rational approach.

Even far-right nutters are now being forced to confront reality: Gov. DeSantis goes bold on climate change.

... and, as a matter of national security, the military can't afford to fall for the ideological claptrap:

Task Force Climate Change was started in May 2009 by the Chief of Naval Operations​

"The Arctic is simply the harbinger of much greater changes that will likely take place in the 21st century. And for our Navy to be ready and capable in the 21st century, we’re gong to need to both understand those changes, leverage the best science available to predict within the bounds of that science, and finally adapt to those changing conditions as, as it’s going to pertain to national security:

The Pentagon’s Quadrennial Defense Review says, “Climate change will contribute to scarcity, disease, mass migration.”

http://earththeoperatorsmanual.com/issue/the-pentagon-on-climate-change​

 

The climate changes. That does not mean that man has much to do with it or can do much about it.You keep saying that we are lead by the noses to disbelieve AGW. I have seen no great knowledge of the subject coming from you and individual scientists are not overwhelmingly convinced. Aren't you being lead by the nose to believe without any sound reason other than being told that is what you should believe?

 

Fun reading.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

 

Nothing but junk. We are not using the same methods, instruments, or frequency now that they used in 1880. That means all that data collected in a different manner than we use today is irrelevant. Smoke and mirrors nonsense with no scientific value...

 

Naw.
Study the science not the numbers.

 

Yes, the 2 degrees is mirrored, which has nothing to do with relevancy, as shown by rising temperatures at both poles. Antarctica caught up with the North Pole as it had 70 degree temps the other day. That perhaps reflects more water in the southern.

But the solstices being about 3 weeks early, gauged by observations of solar noon, independently verifiy the angular measurement of solar declination moving closer to the nadir.

 

So what does it do?

 

If we don't end capitalism the world will end in 2031. It's simple science.

 

Whatever it is they're predicting, we'll see because we are not going to do ANY of the things they say MUST be done NOW.

 

No thanks, its you 'science' folks who make all your false predictions based on: wait for it: NUMBERS. Funny how you want to ignore that now for nothing more than speculation and pure lies. Wow, could you folks get more pathetic on this issue?

 

It's not scientific if it cannot be disproved. Their predictions have been disproved at every turn. They deny it, and then set new predictions as if the previous ones never happened. Their beliefs are not disprovable to them; that qualifies their beliefs as religious rather than scientific.

As a body of knowledge, science is comprised of ideas that can be, but have not yet been, disproved.
As a body of knowledge, religion is comprised of ideas that cannot be disproved.

 

Dunno? You tell me? But one thing is for certain, "WE" could certainly exist in an Co2 environment of 5X what it is currently! Sure we couldn't go snow skiing as readily as we do today but the crops would be much more plentiful and the cow's well they would be a little larger

My prediction of the cows at 2X todays co2 level. IT'S the juicy bitch in the middle, I'm sure you can spot her!! And gives 32 1/2 gallons of super creamy milk that can produce 7# of grade A butter per milking.. I call her Dinobovinasuar

 

I can deny and I can hide, right behind some bushes in my backyard. Problem solved.

 

So here you are in the middle of a discussion in which you know nothing about the science, but you know the denier talking points. I can skip you from now on.

Nunes sued that cow. That will cut her down to size.

 

If you are are convinced that you are impotent, that does not prevent the responsible municipal and state administrations, the US Department of Defense, and other federal agencies from preparing for and taking the needed steps to mitigate and minimize the consequences as they are doing.

Neither irrational denial, spouting nonsenses about a "Chinese hoax", nor unconditional surrender are justified by the reality.

 

You are free to wallow in denial, fantasize about a "Chinese hoax!", reject the scientific data, and pretend that all the municipal, state, and federal agencies that are confronting the crisis lack your expertise, of course.

 

And that temperature is what? C or F we can handle both numbers.

 

What about your lack of expertise demonstrated in this thread? Should that matter?

 

You are not addressing my point. The issues are whether man was responsible, whether man can do anything about it or whether we can accurately forecast the impact of our changes.


Nothing wrong with reasonable preparations. That does not mean we have the understanding that is claimed.

 

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Didn't read thread. "Climate Change" hysteria and outright fraud has been a great trick for growing and enriching the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex and stealing trillions of dollars from the private sector taxpayer and public at large over the decades that the hoax has persisted. No more in the net age. People are wising up and aren't buying it in the net age.

Get some new snakeoil, all played out. Next time choose a social hoax/ moral panic that can be 1. PROVEN to be caused by man, and 2. PROVEN to be remediable by man. Don't just go with a cash grab to fund your next mansion on the coast. The public saw that, sees the strong market in coastal real estate, and thus sees through the whole scam.

This decade will go down as the last decade that the climate hoax carried any more credibility than UFOlogy or Bigfoot scat study.

 

You are free to claim that neither I, nor the aforementioned municipal, state, and federal agencies, know what you know.

 

Um, that's why I included a link of expert opinion, don't be silly Ronv! Unless you actually believe we couldn't live and even thrive in a much richer CO2 environment?

Life on Earth was nearly doomed by too little CO2