Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If your ideological dogma demands that you characterize all the current studies, preparations, mitigating steps, and preventative measures of federal, state, and local agencies in this way, that is what you must do.

    It will not change the reality.
     
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    Hopefully you know now. I supplied you with the data. They knew, I knew, you didn’t. Yet you come here calling out others for behavior you demonstrated in the OP.

    If you want people to take you seriously, get your facts straight before calling others ignorant crackpots. This whole thread is based on dogma proven to be a false premise. And you don’t care. That my friend is you being hidebound to your dogma, even in the face of “scientific facts” to the contrary of your position.
     
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    That's interesting!
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hide from it? I can't even detect it. When are we going to see the flooding that Al Gore showed us in "An Inconvenient Truth"?
     
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    I guess if you understood the relevance of solstice you wouldn't have posted such a uniformed post..

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    The reality is that the public in the net age is getting a great view of the dying last gasps of one of the most productive statist/collectivist scams ever wrought on the taxpayer, and no amount of shillcraft can reverse that death-rattle. Sorry bout that. Again, pick a new public-bilking hoax, climate change is all played out. Maybe go back to moronics like which states are "most and least educated" or some iteration of "wealth resentment."

    OR consider honestly offering realistic policy options to the taxpaying public instead of endless lie narratives on race, gender, wealth, free stuff, climate hoax, or whatever other fallacies public employees and public dependents need to keep looking in the mirror in the morning past their bottomless greed and willingness to have government steal for them in exchange for votes.

    But what you are going to do is keep rehashing the same stale statist/public union troll themes over and over complete with latinate gibberish and trolling, unflattering pictures of your political opposition, etc. About par... for a junior high school progressive newspaper. I suspect you are much older, but that's really what ALL your threads resemble, a crusading 7th grader speaking "truth to power" while picking up the thesaurus every sentence.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It appears you are doing what you are accusing us of doing. Blindly following your leader.
     
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    Either will posting it here! Other than giving those folks some sort of solace and self justification for using and depending of the very products that contribute to Global Warming, it's just a huge bunch of hypocritical "Yakety Yak" ;)
     
  9. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    "Anthropogenic climate change is a vast, clandestine conspiracy
    by the world's scientists, political and civic leaders, and well-educated folks
    everywhere! Don't let anyone else know!...
    Spewing industrial emissions into the atmosphere actually
    has no effect on the atmosphere!"
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When are we going to see the flooding that Al Gore showed us in "An Inconvenient Truth" ?
     
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    Lets say that all the nations of the earth do what you want. It's my understanding that the earth will continue to warm, the oceans to rise and so forth, because this is what the earth does every few hundred thousand years. We are now in one of those periods which began fifteen thousand years ago.
     
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    If you are of such an overwhelming majority, why do you do nothing unless you can compel a few remaining climate denying holdouts to do it too? Are you really prepared to allow this to happen unless you can compel every last person to join you?

    WE SHOULD ALL HAVE AL GORE'S CARBON FOOTPRINT
     
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    ⛅ ~ We cannot accurately predict the weather more than 48 hours in advance - and even that is not a sure thing.
     
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    No. Actually we should be getting cooler.
     
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    Oh some of us would live through it. We could pack into Canada and Siberia.
    But the garden spots of Biloxi, New Orleans, and Mobile will be long gone.
     
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    Doooooom and glooooooommm! Cheap beef, veggies and solar air conditioning.. Jesus Christ man we are technology advanced, stop worrying all the time :wierdface::roll:
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Crackpot denial is a loser for the Republican Party.

    Screen Shot 2020-02-21 at 12.08.33 PM.png Donald J. Trump @ realDonaldTrump

    The concept of global warming was created by and for the
    Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.

    2:15 pm 6 November 2012

     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    An Expert opinion from a guy with a degree in agriculture. :banana:
    No wonder your posts get deleted. They are nothing more than pasties from denier web sites.

    Did you know if you keep your beer cold it won't go flat as fast?
     
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    Understood. What is also true is that Ocean Pollution - is an even bigger environmental threat - 2 and 3 on the list are population growth and industrialization. Then comes CO2 - note the interconnections as well.

    We don't talk much about the first 3. Lizzy got a question about banning export of fossil fuels - she dodged mostly but then mentioned a "Blue Green Deal" - no details but unfortunately - the answer to this girls question is that we should be exporting as much as we can - and building pipelines - as this is better for the overall environmental equation - including CO2.
     
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    That won't be for another ten thousand to one hundred thousand years or so. Till then, it will continue to warm, the ice to melt, and the oceans to rise. This will happen whether or not humans exist. It has to do with the tilt of the earth and how much heat we get from the sun. Not that what we are doing can't make it happen faster. I don't know. But sadly, even if we employ all the scientific advice and recommendations, completely reversing the effects of industry on the environment, it looks like it will continue at its natural pace nonetheless. These are the times into which we are born.
     
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    The facts are out there. You just choose to ignore them.

    According to those DIRTY LIBRL LIARS at NASA, there is a 95% chance that the current rate of global warming, which is unprecedented, is the result of human activity.
    And here's the source they cite for that.

    But please feel free to tell us why NASA is lying to us.
     
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    Considering that James Hansen, formerly of NASA, was caught cooking the data under the cover of Y2K, you should try a more credible source. Using the group corrupted by Hansen is tantamount to relying on the post-John Brennan CIA for intelligence.

    You can do a very simple calculation that will establish the lack of credibility in any assertion regarding the source of GHGs.
    Research the mass of carbon in the oceans.
    Calculate the mass of CO2 if all that carbon was in that form.

    Research the total mass of the atmosphere.

    Calculate the ppm CO2 increase if all the carbon in the oceans was released into the atmosphere. It's a huge number.

    Since the solubility of CO2 decreases with increasing temperature, the evidence that CO2 concentrations FOLLOW rises in ocean temperature throws any absolute assertions out the window.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    By the way, who is monkeying with the sun?
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    Do you have a conspiracy theory about that?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    "Two thirds of younger Republicans feel they have a responsibility to do something about climate change, compared to just 38% of Republicans over 45 who do."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/younger-americans-views-on-climate-change-more-serious-yet-more-optimistic/

    Executives at Shell knew decades ago that burning fossil fuels would cause the planet to warm...
    Shell CEO Ben van Beurden: “Yeah, we knew. Everybody knew,” he said. “And somehow we all ignored it.”

    https://time.com/5766188/shell-oil-companies-fossil-fuels-climate-change/


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    @ realDonaldTrump
    The concept of global warming was created by and for the
    Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive
    .

    2:15 pm 6 November 2012

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    "FOSSIL POWER!"
     
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    Take Leonardo DiCaprio for example, he's mister man-made climate change warrior, and yet he flies his private plane to Australia to enjoy the New Years Eve party there, then flies to Vegas to enjoy the party again. These people with their huge carbon boot prints love to lecture the rest of us.
     
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