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Compulsory voting is a good thing.

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Sallyally, Jul 10, 2017.

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Is compulsory voting a good thing?

Poll closed Jul 17, 2017.

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    34 vote(s)
    77.3%

  3. Other

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  1. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not for it. Either you wish to engage, or you do not.
     
    Just_a_Citizen, Jul 11, 2017
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    Perhaps for someone older with no or older children it doesn't matter so much. Perhaps to them, it makes sense to just give up and not worry about it. But those of us who are younger will actually have to live with such a choice. And I for one am not about to just roll over and accept a damaging, flawed, and unfair system, especially when there are plenty of more than viable alternatives.

    And while I happen to think that compulsory voting wouldn't hurt things, that is not what I suggest as the answer to the two-party issue. The solution I suggested was to institute a ranked election system (and drop plurality first past the post). You say everyone is just going to pull the lever for Republicans or Democrats regardless of what changes?...That there will never be and can never be a level playing ground between them and third party challengers??...But of course...that is exactly what one whom had an interest in maintaining the two-party stranglehold would want you to think! The reality is that even if the two major parties continue to have advantages in the areas of funding and levels of recognition, making the election system itself more fair still goes a long way towards balancing the field, not to mention that many of those other imbalance issues actually stem from the fact that the election system is so skewed in the first place. Are you familiar with the concepts of spoiler candidates and tactical voting???

    -Meta
     
    Meta777, Jul 11, 2017
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    FOURTH AMENDMENT
     
    TheResister, Jul 11, 2017
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  4. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It wouldn't matter.
    The Money will still run the show.
    Tell me that ain't so down under.
     
    Moi621, Jul 11, 2017
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    And 9th. And the 10th if it's a federal "law".
     
    Bob0627, Jul 11, 2017
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    4th amendment
    The Fourth Amendment originally enforced the notion that “each man’s home is his castle”, secure from unreasonable searches and seizures of property by the government. It protects against arbitrary arrests, and is the basis of the law regarding search warrants, stop-and-frisk, safety inspections, wiretaps, and other forms of surveillance, as well as being central to many other criminal law topics and to privacy law.

    The 4th doesn't protect criminals when evidence is brought forth.. Voter fraud is prosecuted with EVIDENCE as a crime.
     
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  7. Battle3

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    Australia seems to think that forcing people to vote will somehow make them conscientious citizens who will do the work required to determine politicians positions and what policies are best. If that's true, then why don't all children of compulsory public education graduate with honors?
     
    Battle3, Jul 11, 2017
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  8. TheResister

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    The Fourth Amendment also specifies a person is to be secure in their "papers." IF there is evidence of a crime, then you would be right. General search warrants are not constitutional, however.
     
    TheResister, Jul 11, 2017
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  9. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Too true.
     
    Sallyally, Jul 11, 2017
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  10. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not everyone makes the best use of his opportunities.
     
    Sallyally, Jul 11, 2017
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    More power to you. I was that way with Perot and the Reform Party. We did end up getting elected several hundred state legislatures and one Governor. But we were top driven. What any third party needs to do is start at the bottom, the grass roots. Get city council and country commissioners elected and state legislatures. Start at the bottom and work your way up. Once you get some state legislatures, perhaps some mayors elected, then head to statewide races. Get people behind you at the grass roots level. That takes time and money, not as much challenging for the presidency or Governorships.

    But most folks don't have the time, are too impatient to take ten or fifteen years to get established where one can actually get house and senate members elected to congress. Everyone's eyes is on the big prize. If you are serious, keep in mind it is the state legislatures who write the election laws for that state. Enough state legislatures and a governor who can sign the changes you are advocating is a real good start. But how can you, even with third parties draw their attention to the local races and forget the presidency? That is a challenge.
     
    perotista, Jul 11, 2017
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    What difference would it make? Enough American voters to matter voluntarily and lawfully installed a president and leftists have pulled out all the stops to subvert their will.
     
    webrockk, Jul 11, 2017
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    We have something much better than compulsory voting:

    A free Big Mac
     
    osbornterry, Jul 11, 2017
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    No it's a bad thing and wouldn't fly here, I would then refuse to vote.



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    Bear513, Jul 11, 2017
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    Those who decide to vote have a right to complain if they don't like the way things are going; those who don't vote can complain all they want, but I pay no heed since they didn't participate in the process.
     
    gamewell45, Jul 11, 2017
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    Anyone want to venture a guess as to how many Trump Haters on this website actually voted last November?

    Remember. They had to be over 18
     
    osbornterry, Jul 11, 2017
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    That's all I was talking about, criminal behavior, not willy nilly picking people up because the authorities 'thought' there was a crime. If they used their computer "papers' to commit voter fraud then they are free game.
     
    gc17, Jul 11, 2017
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    Why would they have had to vote? Their media told them it was in the bag.
     
    gc17, Jul 11, 2017
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  19. osbornterry

    osbornterry Well-Known Member

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    You got me there.
     
    osbornterry, Jul 11, 2017
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    And my electronic foot prints are my "papers" in the 21st Century     :rant:
    I mean it.​
    Somehow we are losing our 4th Amendment rights.
    If the gov't wants to snoop my cell phone calls, web uploads, etc. get a warrant
    just like a hard land line phone. Another Freedom GWTW! <fade to music>



    A copy of this upload is on file at the NSA facility in Utah for meta data analysis only.
    Yup. You bet.
    A President such as NIXON could never corrupt it for the persecution of an "enemies list".
    As secure as the IRS. fershur


    Meanwhile it appears Sallyally :blowkiss: and her O.Z.Land friends are getting a lesson on Liberty.
    Witness the poll.

    ​

    God Bless America where the government may require me
    to purchase health insurance to the profits of those businesses
    but not require me to vote! :woot: :salute:


    ​
     
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    osbornterry Well-Known Member

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    Moi621?

    ...an "enemies list"?

    You mean like the list of conservative organizations compiled by the Obama IRS to deny them tax-exempt status?

    I don't recall any 5th amendment defenses for Nixon's list.

    Do you?
     
    osbornterry, Jul 11, 2017
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    You mean the health care mandate that conservative came up with back in the 90s?
     
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  23. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you aware of the common tongue referencing NIXON's Enemies List?
    Here's a link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon's_Enemies_List

    Referencing my upload where I invoked this enemies list term,
    what is your question.
    Just advertising your point?
    How about that compulsory voting in Australia, mate.
    And I apologize for my part of the 4th Amendment diversion.
    How about that compulsory voting in Australia, mate. Chime in on it as you like.


    Has the lesson of Liberty been acquired by Sallyally :blowkiss: to refuse to take part in her name being crossed off the list. Refuse to pay a fine. Challenge the law in court. Be a martyr. And bring her friend who just doesn't mark his ballot. For the cause of Liberty.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    TaxCanada.jpg
    Make :flagcanada: Pay Its' Fair Share!​
     
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  24. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nah, I think we are happy with the way things are.
     
    Sallyally, Jul 11, 2017
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    HA!!
    WE have sausage sizzles!!

    Because most of the voting is done at the schools the schools usually see it as a great way to earn a few more dollars for the school so someone usually sets up a sausag sizzle and white elephant stall

    It is fun!! :D
     
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