Concealed guns should be illegal

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Quasar44, Apr 23, 2020.

  1. dagosa

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    Maybe we can refresh your memory. The guy is a walking BS artist. He can start out with a lie, hedge it, then go back to lying like a fool. This is just from 2017 !!!!!!!
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mazryanngeorgantopoulos/president-trump-lie-list
     
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  2. BasicHumanUnit2

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    If we hadn't had such an anti-America House, with all their millions wasted on Russian Collusion HOAXES etc etc etc etc etc......I'm pretty sure he would have accomplished them all.
    ****ing Democrats!
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you know that gun control laws have not yet deterred a single crime? It's quite possible that some crimes may have been prevented since the would be perp might not have been able to obtain a weapon or ammunition.
     
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    I read in the papers of the Newtown Shootings, were they fake or real?
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    I checked.
    Actually, it was hyperbole.
    Meaning.....criminals don't usually obey the law when committing a crime.
     
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    The question is not if they were fake or real.......

    But rather if they were real, were the shootings committed by a real or fake criminal?
    And if the criminal was fake, would the legality have mattered if they had concealed their weapon?
     
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    Key word here is "usually"; therefore exceptions do occur.
     
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    That was the question; You said we are told to believe everything yes?
     
  9. dagosa

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    My name is clearly not “Alice”. It’s not me who is acting like an impetuous juvenile. It’s Trump. I hope you would recognize the difference.

    Corrupt democrats ? That’s not true. See the evidence.
    You are being objectionable and imo are trying to shift the blame and responsibility from Trump to me.
    Neither am I democrat. Yet, as for as corruption is concerned.
    history doesn’t lie. Republicans lead the way...and it is not even close.
    Trump has been corrupt his whole life and those around him are doing jail time for it as we speak. Hillary ? The republicans controlled the entire government for two years and have failed to prove anything. Now they are going after Obama with no success. Barr won’t do it for one simple reason. He and the rest of the republicans have way too many skeletons in their own closet to even try.

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    It is worth noting that the individual who advocates knives as being superior to firearms for the purpose of self defense, will not detail precisely which knife is used on the part of himself for such purposes.
     
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    I see the connection now.
    Far too many liberal judges see it that way.......hence prisoners released for coronavirus have murdered during their release.
     
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    That means we should put Manafort back in jail right ? He could commit murder.
     
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    Hmmmmm.......
    Where did you get that notion?

    Every guilty Republican should face the consequences.

    Unfortunately, the current system is such that ONLY Republicans are subject to any consequences.
    THAT is the problem.



     
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    You just claimed judges let elite victims of threat if Coronavirus out to kill others. Manafort fits that description. The damn deep state.
     
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    I understand that NY released a convicted murderer who was 76 years of age due to the coronavirus. If he is lucky enough to survive, I highly doubt he is a threat to society.

    Do you have a link specifying how many convicted murderers are being released from prisons due to the virus? I'm sure you can find an ultra conservative publication that will provide accurate information.
     
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    How many people with a concealed permit have committed murder or some other violent act with a gun?
     
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    Yeah that is a novel idea, but people who are victimized by attacks aren't always men nor are all men physically capable of defending themselves with might. And that's only if your attacker doesn't have weapon.

    How are you going to fight somebody with your buddy if they crack your skull open with a tire iron, or shoot you five times in the chest with their stolen pistol?

    You may have this notion of real men duking it out like it's a boxing match and that's fine, but that's not reality. Criminals who wish to victimize people take all the advantages they can to make it as unfair as possible.

    So if you want to say that real men fight with their bodies please go make a real man out of criminals first. Because that's what self-defense is about.
     
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    If ONE life is "too many" to lose to "gun violence" (as so many gun grabbers like to say)

    Then shouldn't ONE murder committed by a felon who was improperly released by a liberal judge be enough?

    Here's ONE
    Florida Inmate Released Amid Pandemic Killed Someone the Next Day, Officials Say
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/florida-inmate-coronavirus-murder.html

    Isn't that enough? How many are you saying need to die?
     
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    Liberal judge ? It’s the conservatives who are working to get felons out of jail; all associated with Trump.
     
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    What about if the one murder committed by a felon who was improperly released by a conservative judge be enough? Is there a difference?
     
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    Yup...
    In addition. The gop controlled senate voted to not remove Trump from office. Since, his inaction is responsible for thousands of addition deaths. So, who is more responsible for letting criminals out on society with deadly results, then the US republican controlled senate ?
     
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    Find ONE example....I'll stay tuned

    Conservative judges believe in law, justice and order.
    Liberal judges seem to be the opposite.
     
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    You make a lot of baseless accusations against the President.
    Then you draw erroneous conclusions from your false accusations.
    Prove it is specifically his inaction that is responsible for "thousands of additional death".

    Yes, he talks too much and acts childish at times I agree. But I would not agree his inaction killed people.
    News reports seem to suggest Cuomo would more likely quality for that badge (see Cuomo Nursing Home Deaths)

    Some people would consider this Trump Derangement Syndrome.
     
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    You do you know the exponential growth curve is highly suseptable To initial conditions in growth rate and total infections . I assume we all know basic high school math..

    We know Trump was responsible for reducing the scope of the cdc influence dramatically in China just months before the outbreak...he can run, but he can’t hide. Read the article.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv-idUSKBN21C3N5

    He has been MIA in testing and providing protective gear. The delay costs thousands of lives.
     
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    In my state a license to carry limits the carry to concealed weapons. The idea is that an unconcealed firearm is likely to cause unnecessary concern with the public. So there are two points of view.
     

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