Conte Gives EU 10 Days For Support - Or European Project Is Over

Yes, they made massive bets on it and they financially supported Boris and the Leave campaign. There is also another thing which I would need to look up the details on but the EU has put in some regulations which make it difficult for Hedge Funds to work. Hence breaking up the EU and getting the UK out of the EU and with it being one of the big financial sectors is also in the interest of Hedge Funds..

 

I don't know if the information in the Politico article has been put in here

https://www.politico.eu/article/coronavirus-italy-future-germany/

Another thing regarding the EU - and I think it would be better if the EU stayed together with much needed reforms but another thing - Orban is now the Dictator of Hungary. As one of Italy's leaders asked the other day, what is the EU going to do about this.

The EU seems at the moment to find itself in a place where it must rise to the occasion or possibly cause its own destruction. I do not know which result the different countries in the EU want. We have an unknowable future at the moment.....and remember as soon as this pandemic gives us a moment to breath we have climate destruction to deal with.

 

Time to roll in replication technology like 3D printing and ween off of cheap labour across borders.

Times change.

 

The 10 days are up, and what has Conte done about it?
Nothing; no EU country is powerful enough to do anything without a referendum.
This also proves that it's better to be out of the EU than in the EU.

 

I read that 69% of the Italians want to leave the EU, so let's see what happens. If they do, then the EU will be losing its biggest economy after Germany and France - something they can ill afford to do after losing Britain.

 

I agree with much of what you have been saying. The hedge fund owners in general are not the worst though and this is too general a statement. Definitely hedge funds a tool used by the elite class to exercise ownership over the various boards of directors. There are a few hedge funds you will find with major ownership most all the fortune 100.

If you look up State Street for example - you will fund roughly 3 Trillion under management. You will find this company on the list of major shareholders in near every one of the F-100.

Who are these folks ? - this is not your average hedge fund. A quick google of largest hedge funds - "Bridgewater Associates. Founded by Ray Dalio, this Connecticut-based investment management firm is the biggest in the world with $160 billion in assets as of 2017. "

Why doesn't "State Street" make the list ? a whopping 20 times the pool of capital as "the biggest hedge fund in the world".
Look up Mellon and you will find the same.

Then you will find that each of the aforementioned have roughly 32 Trillion "under custody and management" x 2 = 64 Trillion.

WTF ? who are these folks ? These are the folks who own the media - non profits - Banks -and various oligopolies - banking, Energy, Food, Insurance, Healthcare and so on.

When I look up the richest person - you get folks like Gates. Net worth around 100 Billion gets you to the top.

Apparently there are 640 other 100 Billionaires - represented by these two banks - that they are not telling us about
It is more like number of families .. some representing Trillions. These families often work together - as one might expect blue bloods to do.

 

Is Orban a dictator, or is he trying to fight the liberal influence of Soros and his one world government?

Other than Soros, Orban's views and actions might have to do with the treatment of the Hungarians and Russyns in Ukraine - who would rather be a part of Hungary than a government that represents only the area that was once part of Poland.

 

Meah...

Hungary's beyond poor and they have this race of people there I've never heard of who don't feel represented and do things like steal Hungarian infrastructure and sell it for scrap metal; like the metal signs and barriers from the sides of the road, these 2nd class citizens'd steal that **** and sell it; Hungary just stopped the ability to hold elections and pissed off the EU in doing that; not one single **** could be given if I'm honest because if anything, it's the reality of this part of the world and why London is a ****ing beacon compared and London's not exactly paradise but it'll do, nice/fun city when it wants to be, yeah. Meah.

I don't even know what currency they use in Hungary, could be the Euro, could be something else, it's not really something I care about, Hungary, no offense, I mean, I'd hate for them to be wiped off the map but I'm hardily going to say they're getting a raw deal when their part of the world reeks and the EU's trying to mask it gasping for air not being pleased trying to promote the facade of the other side of Europe that's a minority of money for everybody, even Spain, who have none.

 

The question is, will Italy want the EU's help, or is it too late?

Conte warned that the pandemic is an existential threat to the EU, and when asked if the manpower and medical equipment by the Kremlin is to leverage Italian support for lifting EU-imposed sanctions on Russia, this was his response:

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“The mere insinuation offends me deeply. It's an insult to the Italian government… and also to Vladimir Putin, who would never dream of using this as leverage.​

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More than ten days are over, Europe is still there, Italy is still part of the EU, and it doesn't seem as if the "European project is over." So it seems there was indeed a lot of political rhetoric involved, no big surprise there.
The question is not whether Italy wants the EU's help or not and not even Conte brought this up. Of course they still want it, otherwise there wouldn't be negotiations at the moment, and they will get it. The question is merely what will it look like and will Conte get his Corona-bonds. European finance ministers had a video conference yesterday and especially the Dutch government said no to so-called Corona-bonds. Talks will continue today and probably in the next few days. We'll see what the outcome will be.
That alleged quote by prime minister Conte can be found on rt and sputniknews exclusively it seems, so everyone can make up their mind how trustworthy, objective and free from any one-sided propaganda that might be.

 

They will get support. The EU finance Ministers agreed on a 500 billion support package.
When the Corona crisis is over, more money will be organized

 

It was written up in RT and Sputniknews only because the EU like the US, would never allow their brainwashed populations to know what is going on. Germany and the Netherlands are not facing reality here, that their liberal one world order is collapsing all around them.

I know the EU will dissolve, because that's what the Italian people want. I only hope you remember what you wrote, because I will.

 

I told you that we will help.

https://www.en24.news/c24/2020/04/c...hr-delivers-ventilators-to-great-britain.html

 

You will have to accept the simple fact that not everyone is as wise and enlightened as you are.

 

Yes, he has taken advantage of the Coronavirus to secure his position as Dictator. He has suspended elections and Parliament as well as free speech.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/9056...elections-orban-tightens-grip-during-pandemic

https://twitter.com/balazscseko/status/1244612142831198209

Now you may support Orban's antisemetic characture of Soros as the rich Jew running the world, but anyone who is in anyway aware of what a Dictatorship is recognises that Orban has now achieved what he has been working for for so long.

This is another thing the EU will need to deal with and should have dealt with some time ago.

 

Die Luftwaffe fliegt wieder gen Engeland.
Tja

 

About time you realized it!

 

It has nothing to do with Orban, and everything to do with Soros' admitted messianic illusions of a liberal one world government and his Open Society Foundations support of 150 liberal organizations in the US alone - not to mention his support of regime change NGO's in other countries.

Soros has been banned in Russia, Pakistan; Poland; Turkey; Hungary; Philippines; and he's not welcomed in Israeli either. In Macedonia last year they were holding signs saying: Soros out! His society was supporting 40 organizations in that tiny country alone and it almost threw them into a civil war. ​

How do you know what Orban wanted to achieve? It's just conjecture on your part. Orban has been voted in, so obviously he is what the Hungarian people want. Isn't that what democracy is all about?

Look I'm not a fan of leaders like Orban, but the Hungarians see him as a dire necessity so they can hold on to their own religion and traditions and fight against the liberalism and globalism of the EU. I should think that after the last war, Europe would realize that the extremes of an internationalist state like communism was, with it's destruction of individual rights, is bound to create an oppositional extreme like nationalism.

As for the EU doing something, they have an existential problem as it is, so why add to it by having them impose themselves even more so on other nations.

 

The Italian government has announced that it will reject 39 billion euros of EU aid to fight the Corona crisis

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/g113lh/the_italian_government_has_announced_that_it_will/

Italy rejects 39 billions € from the ESM, money which can be spend without any conditions on the Italian health care system which obviously needs ervery cent it can get. But no, Italy wants the the golden pot at the end of the rainbow, Eurobonds.

 

The Italians feel insulted on being told where and how the money should be spent.

 

The weird thing is that said 39 billion would be uncommitted, so what you say doesn't make sense. You are again obviously not interested in facts and just make up stuff. Against Dutch resistance EU finance ministers agreed that Italy can use said money at their free disposal, no conditions. The reasons for their 'no' are to be found in domestic Italian politics. The current bail-out package consists of three parts, the 39 bill. is one of them. Strangely enough, the Italian government wants to use short-time allowances which is one of those parts that is indeed ring-fenced for all EU members; so pretty much the opposite of your unfounded claim. Btw, "the Italians" is a collective that simply doesn't exist in this case. Parts of the Italian government are strongly in favour of using said 39 bill., others, mainly from the five star movement, reject this offer as of now.

 

I merely repeat what I read in a Greek news site, and that is either Conte or the Italian government feel insulted at being told how to spend the money. Why would the news site lie?

Anyway the fact remains; they refused the money.

 

Okay Caligula,I came across this, and to be honest, EU politic doesn't interest me enough to read it thoroughly.

https://theduran.com/backlash-in-italy-over-capitulation-to-eu-rescue-loans-video/

 

Yes, why would a news site lie? face palm One day you claim all news sites that belong to the so-called msm lie, the next day you ask why would a news site lie? Yeah, right. The Italian government refuses this particular part of the three part bail-out package. And it seems they are doing exactly the opposite of what you've claimed, taking that part of the money that is ring fenced.

For someone who claims not to be interested, you make an awful lot of incorrect half-truth claims on the subject. It's obvious that it doesn't interest you, otherwise you'd be informed. You shouldn't expect people to take a fake news site that claims to be fighting fake news seriously.

 

Goodbye EU