Conte Gives EU 10 Days For Support - Or European Project Is Over

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    I wrote about Europe not about the EU concerning solidarity.

    Brexit has been a stupid idea from the beginning and the changes that will come in worldwide trade will make it clear to every sane person.
     
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    So what if we're both European, you're EU, you may as well be USSR, we're not the same.
    Don't play the European card, it means nothing, think global, look at USA, we're all Earth, being in Europe means nothing other than a part of the world, and what a Socialist ideal to think of your own when NY and NJ are in need too.

    If UK helps out the EU, is should be classed as UK foreign aid, and if UK doesn't want to help out the EU but focus on it's self after leaving the EU, then good luck EU, it's for countries in the EU to help out Italy if Italy feels it's the EU's place to offer aid, if Germany aren't helping anybody but themselves, that's too bad.

    Have you even read today's headlines? EU might not survive this crises
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...d-be-final-straw-for-eu-european-experts-warn
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1263414/coronavirus-EU-european-union-covid-19-france-germany
    The EU doesn't work.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By educating oneself you mean accepting your point of view and not their point of view? But I like their point of view. I also like these guys:




     
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    It would be nice to acknowledge the UK's in a better position in all of this being outside of the EU than inside the EU; for a start, nobody's thinking Eurobonds here; we're just thinking of the NHS (UK's healthcare system) and that's how it should be. Brexit was voted for to give the NHS more money anyway.
    Would being in the EU give UK more ventilators or masks? No.
    Probably would just mean a call for EU solidarity over the NHS.
     
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    Eurobonds is a Eurozone issue and wouldn't matter for the UK even when there would have been no Brexit.

    [​IMG]

    The UK press seems to be critical of the outcome.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...s-what-will-happen-to-nhs-prices-after-brexit
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...ng-boris-johnson-settled-status-a9310211.html

    But Boris Johnson wouldn't lie to you and everything will be fine.

    The EU is buying medical supply for their members and the market power of more than 500 million people will help. Yes, the UK would have more medical supply for less money.

    The NHS provides 5,000 ICU beds that is per capita half the beds Italy has.

    [​IMG]

    Since Boris Johnson mismanaged the coronavirus crisis you will be happy to see the Luftwaffe relocating British patients to German hospitals. We will help if we can.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The EU is over, border-less travel is over; Tell Italy's Conte how being in the EU's good when NL have to feel bad for refusing to help out Italy; Why can't Italy tackle it without the help of other EU countries and why must EU countries be put into that awkward position to even think about helping out Italy at a time like this when they clearly feel it's right to help out their own like NL and Germany?
     
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    The EU is over, aren't you even aware of what's going on in the news?
    https://spectator.us/spain-italy-abandoned-eu/
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/1/italy-say-eu-has-abandoned-them-during-coronavirus/
    It's ****ing crazy to think a big bloc like the EU or the USSR (same difference) is the way forward; They're borderless and undemocratic and when push comes to shove, Germany and NL would rather act like their own Brexit has happened, It's 2020 and the EU model of a big bloc is out dated.
    It also gives us Europeans a bad name when you think Europeans should stick together, what about USA? What about NY? Shouldn't they also get our help? To Hell with Europe, it's a backwards mud puddle who forgets itself and when push comes to shove, the EU crumbles like castles built on sand because there is no foundation.
     
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    You should choose your newspapers better, a hardcore pro Brexit newspaper owned by the Barcley brothers and a newspaper owned by the Moon cult.

    The EU will survive these troubles and will adept, they will overcome people like Orban in Hungary. Who is interested in a weak and split EU? Russia for sure, a lot of politicians in the US and China for sure.

    The UK will face harsh winds being alone. Maybe it will only be England being alone and the other parts of the UK will leave because they don't want to be governend by an undemocratic entity like the UK which has a non elected head of state and a non elected second chamber of their parliament which is also extreme sexist.
     
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    Germany added 18.000 c19 intensive care units, since start of the outbreak and has now 40.000.
    At the present only 2000 and some are used for c19 patience
     
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    Withstanding their political idiocy, the Germans are technological and organizational gems and we all thank you for it. How much poorer the world would be without them.


    Thank you!
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    You mean it's news that EURONEWS doesn't want people knowing so won't touch it with a barge pole.
    What did Orban do, erect a border? Don't cry about it, he's leader of his country, not EU.
    USA, good, EU bad, because EU's European doesn't mean it's any better than China or Russia.
    It seems you believe it but don't face the truth. The EU is over.
     
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    The other way around: the Democrats belong to the hedge funds. Or more generally, the global capitalists.
     
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    The USSR did not die, it came to the US with its liberalism, materialism, globalism, indifference towards human life, propaganda and control of the masses. We're living in it!

    That big block was part of Soros and the Washington ideologues liberal one world order plan under corporate and Washington's control. Many in the EU were on their payroll. Hopefully it has ended - as Vladimir Putin said it would - just like the USSR.
     
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    Interesting. I found a Bloomberg article that claims the Hedge Funds support a hard Brexit because they've made bets that would be profitable if the supposed financial chaos of a hard Brexit comes to pass.

    Is this what you are referring to?
     
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    The EU is just beginning. You're young enough, you will see the remains of the former UK begging to be a member again.
     
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    I wouldn't worry about "global capitalists"
    for these people the rise of the middle class has been a god-send,
    so too has free trade, better education, the right of private property,
    democracy, science and technology.
    And I am fine with that too.

    Global Marxism is the thing to fear. About 150,000,000 died under
    it in the 20th Century. And when you read about the war Mao waged
    in the Cultural Revolution (against "old" things like religion, culture,
    private ownership etc.) you can see the same philosophy at work in
    our higher education institutions.
     
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    There would have to be a realignment of what the EU represents for that to happen.
    Economic union, of sorts, is fine for most British, but political union means that
    Brussels rules over the English parliament. Worse, such supra-national bodies are
    easily infiltrated by political groups, as has happened to the UN.
     
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    Stop having a pissing contest with the world; the EU was tested and now Italy's Conte is fed up.
    Your globalization mentality was yesterday and the way forward isn't through paying for the EU.
     
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    Didn't you babble about global Britain recently? We don't need the globalization like the UK, we have a common market.
    Italy will be helped, don't worry about them.
     
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    Times change, the economy was yesterday; Covid-19 and whatnot, and last time I checked, your common market's built on open borders.
     
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    The borders are still open for goods and will be open again for people but the next time someone has a cold in China the borders will be closed again for non EU citizens and you will be out and you can expect that most countries will do the same. But hey, you wanted controlled borders and you will get controlled borders.
     
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    including , none other than, the usa's federal reserve which is a privately owned bank in the eu ;)
     
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    Yeah; also, China's helping the world at the moment, leading the world in the fight against Coronavirus; I'm fine with not being in the EU, just tell me when we can stop unskilled EU migration to the UK.
    USA's better than the EU imo, so is Brexit.
     
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    Somethings could be on the way out, like mass production from factories in some lucrative business environments to 3D printing 'closer to home', being more cost effective too, 'the replicator mk.1' if you will.

    3D printing has stepped up during this Coronavirus Pandemic, I hope you know that.
     
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