Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Never Interviewed By Investigators, Now Back In Charge Of House Securit

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  1. ShadowX

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    That’s fine but if the other side is not going to allow their rioters be handled in such a fashion, why should we allow ours to be handled that way?

    If their rioters are only getting a slap on the wrist and probation, why should we support ours receiving ANYTHING other than that?
     
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    In the first place this isn't the NFL, these criminals aren't "ours". In the second, the 2020 riots, as heredous as they were, don't equate to the threat the January 6th insurrection was to Government by the People. And thirdly the 2020 riots, not demonstrations, RIOTS, belong to America because they were instigated by anarchists from across the political spectrum. The insurrection belongs to ONE man Donald Judas tRump.
     
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    Ah so you're taking sides amongst felons who need to all be in prison or under the dirt. There is no 'our' rioters or 'their' rioters. They're all just 'rioters' and should be put down so far as required to make them stop whether that's arrest or death. There is no moral high ground, both arbitrary sets you create from one whole are equal in that respect. That you make a distinction, particularly with the language you use, marks you a serious partisan with an axe to grind. I don't think a discussion can actually be had with you.
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    You cannot be taken seriously when you continuously assert that a group of ~2,000 people planned on a violent overthrow of the government with ZERO firearms in use and it wasn’t simply a protest that got out of control.
     
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    News alert Sport…. They are not felons… they are setting in jail awaiting trials.
     
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    News alert Champ . . . I saw their behavior live, they're felons awaiting the formality of 12 people agreeing with the facts. Several have already made it there in any case.
    If they pose that they were not in the commission of a felony and I am defaming them, I invite them to sue me for defamation so I can assert the absolute defense of truth.
     
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    News alert Honey…I don’t know how they do it in your country, but in America….. they are American citizens sitting in jail awaiting a fair and “speedy” trial after a year … obviously your response throws the “fair” part out the window and after a year the speedy part went out the window
     
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    One day you're complaining about the prosecution being a "kangaroo court", today you're complaining they are doing too thorough of a job???? :roll:
     
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    News alert Kitten. .. . I live in America and I'm able to watch felonious behavior on tape and point to it when I see it without that being a violation of anyone's sacred rights. Likewise, open and shut cases occur all the time. The delay you're finding would be with the defendants, they can stall for quite some time. You can tell by how quite a few of them have gone to trial or pled out.
    If they wanted to move it along because they think their rights are being violated, they could file a habeus petition as well, something that happens in every state every single day. They have not. Odd, no?

    Dude when you have someone dead to rights on tape committing more than one felony, pointing out the evidence against them makes trial basically a formality does not implicate the fairness of the process for ****'s sake.
     
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    The delay you're finding would be with the defendants, they can stall for quite some time. You can tell by how quite a few of them have gone to trial or pled out.
    If they wanted to move it along because they think their rights are being violated, they could file a habeus petition as well, something that happens in every state every single day. They have not. Odd, no?

    Aaaannnnd --->
    BINGO!!!!

    We have a winner, folks!!!!!!!!
     
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    Welcome to America, Comrades.. Unlike your country, our country has some silly stuff to protect our citizens such as....... innocent until proven guilty and


    U.S. CITIZENS HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, SPEECH, PRESS, ASSEMBLY AND PETITION

    U.S. CITIZENS ARE PROTECTED FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES OF A PERSON'S PROPERTY

    GOVERNMENT MAY NOT FORCE U.S. CITIZENS TO TESTIFY AGAINST THEMSELVES IN COURT

    U.S. CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT TO A FAIR AND SPEEDY TRIAL

    U.S. CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY

    U.S. CITIZENS ARE PROTECTED FROM CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS

    U.S. CITIZENS MAY HAVE RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT LISTED IN THE CONSTITUTION
     
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    Again, I'm a US citizen and pointing out that these people have been caught dead to rights without a legal excuse and just await the formality of the process itself doesn't implicate innocent until proven guilty. I'm saying based on the available evidence they've met the elements for the crimes they're charged with.

    OMGZORGS CAPS ATTACK ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN IMPLICATED BY THE FACTS11111111111111111111111111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO YOU FEEL BETTER WHEN YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPS?

    Again: If they feel their rights are being violated they can file a habeus petition. But none of the ones I'm aware of still awaiting final trial have. Why would they not file the action that allows them to assert this deprivation of right claim? How would not doing so aid them?
     
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    So the "innocent until proven guilty" and the "trial by a jury of their peers in a court of law" (not your kangaroo public court)... went right over your head..
    You are not the judge and jury here..

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    Thanks for the Civics demonstration, no go back to class and learn how it's applied. None of that has a thing to do with why the insurrectionists have chosen NOT to exercise their right to habeus corpus rights.
     
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    It has everything to do with American citizens.
     
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    But not specifically, why the insurrectionists have slow walked their trials. Which WAS the topic at hand.
     
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    ya got proof?
     
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    Look at what's going on. If you were looking at jail or prison time would you be in a hurry?
     
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    This is not the Aubrey shooting focus on THIS shooting I doubt this officer was thinking about that shooting when he pulled the trigger.

    Why do you oppose and do not DEMAND that as in any other police use of lethal force resulting in the death of a citizen there be a clear and transparent investigation and this officer held accountable to reporting why he killed someone under his authority as a police officer. No matter what hate your have for her in your heart she was a citizen engaged in a political protest that turned into a riot but a citizen nonetheless.

    The Republicans are trying the have that investigation and the Dem leadership is standing in their way. Do you support the Dems doing so?
     
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    If they'd like to sue me for defamation for saying they're on tape committing more than 1 felony, I invite them to and I'll assert truth as a defense. That is the remedy if you think I'm defaming them by pointing out they're on tape committing what are clearly felonies and that when they go to trial its going to be essentially impossible for them to mount a defense. Its legal analysis dear, that doesn't violate anyone's rights.

    Indeed I'm not the judge or the jury, which is why I'm perfectly free to speculate on their guilt or innocence pre-trial, based on available evidence. See how that works?
     
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    There were 3 investigations, all of which exonerated Officer Byrd. There are many on going trials that preclude publishing the results of those investigations. You wouldn't want their trials tainted, I'm sure.

    Ashli Babbitt was involved in a violent attack on OUR Capitol AND Congress.

    The Republicans are standing in the way of investigating January 6th, not Democrats.
     
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    You are babbling again.... ya got proof of your statement or not?
     
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    You are not worth suing...... Your head is to big for your tin foil hat.....""You invite them"" wow I laugh in your face....You are just what you are, a liberal attempting to try these people in a public court.... We have seen it through Kavanaugh , Jordon, 2 impeachments, Russiagate, spygate, etc... it is a never ending list..
    Americans get fair trials and convicted in a real court by their peers. You and your ilk ARE THE PROBLEM when you think you can do otherwise.
     
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    If I'm not worth suing, that means no damage occurs by my statement so its not a problem then is it? ;)

    I'm not attempting to try these people in a public court, I'm stating my opinion based on the evidence we've got so far. IF they don't like my opinion, they can kiss my ass which has some boils on it.

    Besides, even if I WAS trying to try these people in a public court: I don't think any of us actually live in DC where we might be in the jury pool.
    Any DC folks here? Show yourselves.

    Again: I'm not a partisan of either the 'left' or 'right' (though those are woefully inadequate descriptors) stripe.
    These people will have a fair trial in front of a properly impaneled jury of their peers: its just that we've got them committing the acts which meet the elements of the crimes they're charged with on tape, so whether or not they catch it is somewhat of a foregone conclusion.
    That doesn't mean its actually decided in advance, that means as a practising (spelling is correct) attorney I know a losing case when I watch the defendant commit the crime in full HD.
     
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    Your opinion is just that... an opinion... you have an ego problem ... wipe your lip, your drooling.

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