Cornell has problems with the vaccinated

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  1. Eleuthera

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    The shots lead to the increase in infections. Highly vaccinated populations soon show high rates of infection, in direct proportion.

    That's why Sweden and Portugal no longer allow entry of individuals from the highly vaccinated countries like Israel, US, Gibraltar and others.

    That's why (contrary to MSM claims) so many hospitals in the US are full. We have now a highly vaccinated population. The shots kill many, maim many more, and cause respiratory and other symptoms in many.

    Anecdotally, I know a handful of such in my area. Fully vaccinated, and they get sick.

    The shots don't do what they were sold to do.
     
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    If you think about it, it's common sense. Normal vaccines have a deactivated virus, and that trains the biological body. But in this case, these 'vaccines' introduce the spike protein, which might as well be like injecting the body with live virus.
     
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    Dittos.. a client in my office yesterday that has a persistant sore throat, says the jab was the stupidest thing she ever done.
     
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    Some say the spike protein is the heart of the bioweapon. They are probably right.
     
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    We've been lied to so many times about this virus that there is no information that I trust concerning it.. my wife says there is some doctor saying all the vaccinated will be dead in two years.. I told her to not worry about it.. almost (maybe nothing) we been told about the WuhFlu has been accurate... we know it was a bioweapon, funded in part by mechanism Fauci controlled and developed in a Chinese Military lab..but none of the major news media reported that.... and that is just absolutely insane.. in fact I would have tossed a scifi novel wit th esame premise as being too far fetched.. oh well you know what they say about realisty being stranger than fiction.
     
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    The way I see it is that known liars are not to be trusted. MSM, sadly, are known liars, propagandists for the Plandemic. Whatever they tell me is false.

    OTOH, the many whistleblowers do so at great personal expense, from Peter McCullough on down. The whistleblowers are the truth tellers, and for that the system punishes them.
     
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    As for the link in your OP, it relies on an assumption that the shots are ineffective, and doesn't consider that the Delta variant wasn't on the radar when the vaccines were made and seems to ignore that the Delta is more infectious and it infects younger people much more than the version in 2020. Conclusions made when not considering all the factors might be problematic.

    As far as the anecdotes, my wife is an ICU nurse in a major hospital and the overwhelming majority of their cases are unvaccinated people.
     
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    I wonder if the Delta variant is just being used as an excuse for why the vaccines do not seem to have reduced the infection rate.
    Conveniently very few people are actually being tested to see if the Covid type they have is the Delta variant or not.
     
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    I don't think delta is an excuse. I think it is an "improved" vaccine resistant strain. The vaccines actually did reduce the infection rate. Delta brought it back up again thanks to its improved contagion. Theoretically, the original virus is virtually gone having been overtaken by delta. Assuming the current infections are delta is reasonable. If a strain comes along with even greater contagion and vaccine resistance, it will overtake Delta.

    The problem now is that government is obsessed with vaccinating people against a strain of the virus that is no longer a problem. Eventually we will reach some sort of herd immunity. While vaccines will ease the path to that achievement, infections and recovery will be main reason most likely. One thing we do know is that the vaccines have some therapeutic benefit to people who are infected with delta. So the vaccines are still important. They may not be able to stop the spread of the virus but they are able to reduce the severity of the symptoms. The government is right to recommend vaccination. It just needs to put the heavy hand away.

    None of what I wrote above is proven fact. The virus and its affects are still under study and certainly not under control. What I wrote is opinion based on what I see going on around me with a little help from my prior education.
     
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    And then you open the link and find the actual truth of the matter...

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    No, they do genetic testing. We touched upon that subject in biology 101.
     
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    Many whistleblowing nurses and hospital administrators around the country disagree with your wife's conclusions. Data from around the world disagrees with your wife's conclusions, including the Cornell data, no matter how you choose to rationalize it.

    The fact remains that many populations around the world, like Cornell, are after massive injection campaigns now showing surges of case numbers.

    I know a handful of people doing the same. Took the shot months ago and are now sick with the virus. The shots don't work, and it's not an assumption. Those with a vested interest, those who've taken the shot, will naturally rationalize it. I understand, with several brothers and a sister who must also rationalize it. I'm sympathetic, but this has been predicted by numerous whistleblowers during the last 9 months.

    They are not vaccines, they are experimental drugs containing toxic substances.
     
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    The truth sux, eh amigo? :angel:
     
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    Sometimes, despite all efforts, THE TRUTH weasels it's way into the broad daylight....sorry Covidians, the tower of LIES built over the past year and a half is beginning to sway......:nod:
     
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    Sweden vaccination percentage

    Portugal vaccination percentage

    That's an odd statement considering Sweden and Portugal both have a higher rate of vaccination then the US does.
     
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    Maybe so, but FWIW Portuguese courts ruled many months ago the PCR tests were grossly inaccurate. That's a step in the right direction.

    Your links don't work so I'm not confident your cited statements are anything but contrived talking points, likely inaccurate, similar to the contrived talking points, fake news, regarding the huge numbers of overdoses from self medicating Oklahoma citizens with Ivermectin.

    A quick search shows Sweden at just shy of 60%
     
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    There is no substitute for transparency and truth. Everyone understands that government always wants to make itself look good and, as always, maintain power and control. But they should be telling us that weaponized viruses can be effective. They should be beating up on China, firing Fauci who funded the weaponization, explaining how viruses actually work and what a realistic prognosis looks like. For some reason they can't get up the nerve to be straight and honest with people.

    No, there wasn't 2 weeks to flatten the curve. No, there was no herd immunity after 70% of the public became vaccinated. No, masks don't block the transmission of viruses. No, forcing people to get a vaccine that is obsolete because the virus has mutated and is now resistant to it. No, shutting down parts of the economy over the virus is not a good idea. Frustration doesn't even begin to describe my feelings about the hysteria spread by government over this bug. We cannot allow them to "manage" future epidemics. They have doctors, of course, but those doctors are burdened with politics. Leave these things to the doctors that actually practice medicine every day.
     
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    [QUOTE="Cal-Pak, post: 1072932976, member: 817"


    That's an odd statement considering Sweden and Portugal both have a higher rate of vaccination then the US does.[/QUOTE]

    Yours is an odd statement considering that the U.S. has achieved a vaccination rate greater than 80%. That is, of course, true only if you believe government statistics.
     
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    Well. it's pretty easy to check and see if your post is bullcrap. You claim that Sweden isn't letting in visitors from the US because
    of the US's high vaccination rate - but a quick check shows that Sweden has a HIGHER vaccination rate than the US.

    So we rate your post Bullcrap.
     
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    The feeling is mutual Daniel, and has been.
     

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