Creationism

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  1. k7leetha

    k7leetha Banned

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    For anyone and everyone:

    If you believe in creationism, fine.

    Which creator and why?
     
  2. prospect

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    Flipside to that... Fighter jets used to destroy a city = science/technology. ..and we didn't do that for religious reasons.

    I doubt the heads of their attack did either, they just hate Americans. I don't think their faith instructs them to kill Americans.
     
  3. triffidfood

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    On the contrary, that's precisely what they did believe: that they had a God-given duty to attack the US and it's interests, in response to what they saw as a war being waged by the West (principally the US) against them.

    Pretty much like Christianity, "faith" in whatever God can lead people to all sorts of conclusions & in all sorts of different directions, can't it.
     
  4. prospect

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    Yeah but that's jihad justification.The Prophet Muhammad forbade the killing of non-combatants so I'm not so sure that Bin Laden wasn't just using that as an excuse because he hates Americans. We didn't attack back in the name of Christianity either.
     
  5. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    It seems that there is no empirical evidence to support a Universe created without the intervention of a higher power or God.
     
  6. FreeWare

    FreeWare Active Member Past Donor

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    No, this is factually. As Nosferax said, it's observation. The theory is that it can be observed across phyla due to common descent. So this you can call the theoretical part, if you wish.
     
  7. NaturalBorn

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    So this can be repeated and observed?
     
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    I find this above state to be high improbable. You state the you have been ' bombarded' with the ' Religion of Darwin' (as you put it :rolleyes: ), yet you don’t know what a scientific theory is?

    I was born at night, but it was NOT last night.
     
  9. GraspingforPeace

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    The theory of evolution is not reliant on Darwin any longer, NaturalBorn, which goes to show even further that you have no idea what you're talking about. Anyways, you have not offered any counter scientific points of view, you only seem to argue against evolution using creationist arguments, but there really is no other scientific theory out there that competes against evolution. Note I said scientific, nothing about creationism is scientific.
     
  10. NaturalBorn

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    I know Darwin's Theory was discredited years ago, just as most of the ToE has been throughout the years.
    "This is absolute fact about evolution until it is discredited. Then the new facts are facts, for now."

    I suppose that is one way to promote your religion. Claim it is a fact until it doesn't make sense anymore, then develop a new fact.
    "Science proves this theory wrong, well we will just change the theory and make the science community constantly play catch-up to continually prove us wrong. We will wear them down."
     
  11. FreeWare

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    So it was already a mess at school? I'm sorry to hear that.
     
  12. GraspingforPeace

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    You know that the theory of gravity has changed as well, right? It's not like evolution is the only theory that changes as new evidence is found.
     
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    Don't waste your time with facts and common sense on this issue...they only want to believe a book that was written by people who believed that dragons were real........
     
  14. NaturalBorn

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    Gravity still draws us towards the center of the Earth, not towards San Antonio, TX. Evolution has shifted that much!
     
  15. GraspingforPeace

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    Really, what exactly has changed in evolutionary theory that much?
     
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    How many "missing links" have been found and discredited?
     
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    What does that have to do with evolutionary THEORY? What you're discussing is evolutionary history, two completely different topics.
     
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    There are no transitional life forms on Earth today or in the fossil records. Therefore evolution is a myth.
     
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    Creationists face the same problem as everyone else who is a part of ANY religion, a closed mind. Creationists believe in miracles even though there is absolutely NO evidence to support anything in scripture. Maybe they have proved certain historical events did occur, but NOTHING backs anything which falls under the heading of the "word of god". These people have stopped asking HOW and WHY things work and simply say "act of god" as THE only possible reason. That is not being stupid, but rather simply being lazy. Well, being lazy might be construed as being stupid... I am NOT saying there is no god, or that a god is impossible, just that I see NO reason to believe there IS. Big difference there. These people are ignorant by choice, believing in the miracle rather than finding fact. Their miracle to ME is simply a question I have not figured out an answer to YET. Unexplained events are simply things which make me curious. It just means I have not found the answer YET, not that there is no answer but an "act of god". By the way, their answer for EVERYTHING is that it is in "god's plan" and we do not know and can not know, all the details of the divine... See? Like I said, a closed mind. Fossils are just another part of "god's plan". My only problem is, WHO SAYS SO? And why should we believe THEM? What makes a priest credible to speak FOR god anyway? Just SHOW me something which backs up their word that it is the hand of god at work? Something OTHER than the hearsay they call scripture?
     
  20. GraspingforPeace

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    Even if there were no transitional fossils, which there are but you do not accept, that would not prove the theory of evolution wrong. If you think it would, explain how it would.
     
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    The MUST be millions of transitional life forms in fossil records and observable today or else the evolutionary myth is just that.
     
  22. GraspingforPeace

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    No, there must not be. Who says there must be besides you? Fossilization is a rare occurrence and it is wonderful that we have ANY fossils today.
     
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    If one has never experience miracles or is blind to it then you will say what you are saying. I have personally experience the supernatural that defy logical explanation, as well as miracles and I personally know of others who have.
     
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    You view evolution like a Christmas tree lot with all the different shapes and type of evergreens all stacked up nice and pretty. In nature there are seedlings, saplings and 60 foot tall fir trees.

    What we see today in what you claim is a stage of evolution is the Christmas tree lot, not the forest from which they should have been sawn as we should be able to observe. The seedling mouse-like creature and the 60 foot tall bat, and all the heights of creatures in between.
     
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    Once again, WHO BESIDES YOU says that there must be MILLIONS of transitional fossils? Exactly, nobody. Maybe some other creationists.
     

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