Dallas police officer shoots neighbor dead after entering wrong apartment

Then he wasn’t talking about you.

 

You've shown zero legitimate sources to your assertions. You've admitted you have no clue of police training yet you insist you do. Those who question your claims have zero burden of proof.

 

And so are automobiles, airplanes, and alcohol.

 

And pray tell exactly what are the sources being cited by yourself, that back up and verify the claims of yourself that firearms training for law enforcement officers is not of a purely rudimentary nature?

 

Yeah so you still haven't proven your claim of cops not getting training.

 

Just as yourself has not proven the claim that law enforcement officers actually are getting training.

 

I have no burden of proof. I'm not the one making claims.

 

Horribly inadequate training for the most part.

Situational awareness training is far more highly developed in private sector training than in the overwhelming majority of law-enforcement training.

Again, while law enforcement pays a lot of lip service to situational awareness training, most of what is taught to law enforcement officers is minimal and seriously flawed.

No, he's not wrong. I've attended training at all levels of law enforcement; from my training at FLETC in Charleston and Artesia to private sector classes I paid for out of my own pocket, all of which doesn't include a lifetime of informal training and advice at the hands of my grandfather, who was a cop for four decades, and I can tell you that most Academy instruction is badly flawed and woefully inadequate for the most part. There are some department's academies that are exceptions, certainly; but they are pathetically few.

There is a saying that college doesn't give you an education, it gives you the tools with which to acquire an education; but too many people get the degree and think their learning days are done. I see Academy training as being like that: you should never stop seeking knowledge after you've graduated but use the foundation the Academy gives you to build the knowledge necessary to be a truly great law enforcement agent. Unfortunately, too many officers finish the Academy and immediately fall into complacency, thinking they're highly trained when the reality is that they are NOT.

When it comes to firearms training in particular it is very hard to build true competence based solely on what the Academy spoon feeds you. The firearms training is usually built on arbitrary standards cooked up by an admin weenie anyway, but then you throw in entire Academy classes made up of people who've never touched a pistol before being hired, and it gets worse. I was a shooter and competent gun handler before I ever attended the Academy, and I was stunned at just how lacking in basic knowledge my classmates were. I could outshoot the instructors from day one, but couldn't comprehend how many of my classmates who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside resented and resisted training... only to strut like world-class gunfighters because they managed to shoot a minimum qualifying sore on their second try. They then went out into the world, still thinking they were properly trained, only to find themselves struggling to pass the quarterly quals because they NEVER practiced or sought extra training. Me, I not only shot possibles at almost every qual but I sought out private training to enhance my own real-world survivability as well.

 

Your bigotry and arrogance is well documented, and shows you flat don't know the first thing of which you are talking about. Talk about shameful!

 

He said there was zero training, not that there was training but it's flawed. Two different things.

This is what he said,

 

300,000,000 guns are owned in the US and your "proof" is a few killers. You just defeated your own argument.

 

Fair enough. I read it a little differently, as the original comment was about being trained in being aware of your surroundings, and I can certainly say that situational awareness training can be sorely lacking - even, I daresay, nonexistent - in some departments.

 

A few killers? Ha ha.

Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

 

How would you know?

 

The majority of which are incidents of suicides, and therefore do not legitimately count regarding overall statistics.

 

Don't legitimately count? Funny.

 

Correct. Unless the topic of discussion pertains to suicides, and exclusively suicides, those who chose to end their existence with a firearm simply do not count, and are devoid of legitimacy in discussion elsewhere.

 

BS. Whether you chose to kill yourself or someone else both expose the danger of firearms.

 

The Dallas police officer who fatally shot Botham Jean in his apartment Thursday night has been arrested, officials said Sunday.


Botham Shem Jean
(Instagram)
Amber Guyger, 30, was arrested in Kaufman County and booked Sunday evening into the Kaufman County Jail. She has been charged with manslaughter, Texas Department of Public Safety Lt. Lonny Haschel said.

Bail was set at $300,000.

Guyger told police she mistakenly thought Jean's apartment at South Side Flats in the Cedars was her own when she fatally shot him.

Jean, a PricewaterhouseCoopers employee and native of Saint Lucia in the Caribbean, was pronounced dead at Baylor University Medical Center.


Dallas police Officer Amber Guyger
(Kaufman County Jail)

There was public outcry that Guyger was allowed to remain free for three days after the shooting.

Dallas police Chief U. Renee Hall said Saturday that a judge had not yet signed a warrant for Guyger because the Texas Rangers, which took over the investigation Friday, had learned new information and wanted to first investigate further.

The arrest warrant was issued after "subsequent coordination with the Dallas County District Attorney's Office," DPS said.

Guyger is a five-year veteran of the Police Department. In 2017, she shot and wounded a man who wrestled a Taser away from her during an arrest.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

These and more questions remain unanswered. Like, why didn't she just apologise and leave?

The picture as painted, is seriously suspect.

 

Indeed!

 

Because I know what I'm talking about, and you.... don't.

 

Did this guy take the same Active Shooter course you did?

 

Nope. Any other childish and insulting nonsequitors you want to toss about?

 

Then explain how precisely. Explain how suicide supposedly "exposes the danger of firearms" and what relevance such actually has.