Darren Wilson Will Not Receive A Severance Package

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes to the liberal turning and running and not doing your duty is courage under fire. Standing your ground, following your training, doing your duty and dispensing with the threat is panicking.

    go figger
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Yes as in telling the suspect, stand back or I will shoot. But then Brown did not stand back. Or as in freeze or I will shoot, but then Brown did not freeze but attacked.

    But then once he attacked Wilson the first time he was no longer a suspect but a dangerous criminal, an outlaw.

    Tell me when Brown turned and rushed the police officer whom he had already attacked and attempted to gain control of his weapon did the police officer have a duty to stop him? Did he have a right to protect himself or was he supposed to either turn and run away or just let Brown bowl him over?

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    Why should the Brown family get any money from the police officer or anyone else?

    Maybe the store owners should be getting money from the Brown family instead.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Prove the police officer knew Brown was unarmed. And no, police officer have no duty nor obligation to wing someone when they are under an imminent attack even if such precise aiming was even possible on a moving target. It took ten shots to the mass to stop him, stop being ridiculous with your specious assertions.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    No, vehicle does not equal shooter. Wilson ran after Brown, you see those circles just east of Caddlefield, some of those are bullet casings from where Wilson was standing when he was firing the shots and you see how close Brown got to him before the fatal shot was fired.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    No it doesn't sum it up. Yes as his duty requires he chased him yelling for him to stop. Then when Brown turned to attack him, he fired. He is NOT SUPPOSED TO ESCAPE, it is his duty to stand there and STOP THE ATTACKER.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Well that is entirely in what the anti-police side has been engaged.

    Because the officer prevented it.

    No it is entirely salient as in did the police officer have a reasonable belief the attacker was attempting to gain control of his weapon. Did he?

    The premise of your question is false, he chased him to keep tabs on him while attempting to get him to freeze and submit to arrest while backup was on the way. He shot him when he turned and rushed back at him in a threatening manner.

    His job, his duty is to NOT extricate himself but to remain fully involved in order to apprehend the violent criminal.

    You are not a police officer whose sworn duty is to apprehend the violent criminal who is attacking him.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Yes we know that he was running directly at the officer at full speed after being told to freeze and submit to arrest, that is attacking. Had he not been stopped his next two steps would have bowled over the police officer.

    He was bleeding from a minor wound to the thumb, you don't know if he was out of breath as moot as that may be. The fact is we know he turned and rushed back at the officer.

    Please cite the statement from the officer of this event.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    You don't have to consume yourself to at least educate yourself on the matter before you come here to try and debate it.

    Yet here you are "consuming" yourself.

    It's where they both came from, what is your point?

    Yes, that was his job and duty to do.

    Not necessarily but so what, they weren't posed on the blocks waiting for the gun to fire in a race.

    Why do you keep insinuating the police officer was supposed to escape from the violent criminal? That was NOT his SWORN duty to uphold.

    What on earth are you talking about.

    So let me get this straight. From now on whenever a criminal turns on a police officer the police are supposed to run away?

    Let's be clear here, if it ever happens that you hear someone breaking into your home and you call 911 and the police get there and tell the person to freeze and that person turns and tries to attack the police you expect the police to run away and escape.

    Have you bothered to read the keys as to what all those little circles with numbers indicate?
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    What was the hysterical part?
     
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    No, he should have stayed. And put every other police officer's life in danger.:hmm:
     
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    Why don't you show a FACTUAL link proving that Brown (who had already been shot by then) turned around TO ATTACK (ridden with bullets!) rather than to surrender, as most witness stated?

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    How do you know if he had advanced two more steps he would have "bowled over the officer?" If he was that close to him, by falling forward, he would have actually fell ON TOP of the officer. . .remember. . .he was over 6 feet tall (that's more than 2 steps!)

    And. . .how do you know how close he was when the last shot was fired? Please provide a link that shows that he was shot at close range!

    By the way, how did Wilson know Brown didn't have a gun? DUH!!!! IF Brown really was "attacking" Wilson. . .and had a gun, why would he have tried to take Wilson's gun instead of using his own? So. . .the fact that he DID'T pull out a gun, but tried to RUN AWAY after the first shot by Wilson should pretty well tell anyone with half a brain that Brown didn't have a gun and/or had NO INTENTION of harming Wilson!
     
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    Read the GJ witness statements.......please.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...5EHCDlh2hQi5uZfyj22bHHQ&bvm=bv.80642063,d.aWw

     
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    Wow.... you really believe that Brown had no intention of harming Wilson? So you had read Brown's mind.... and you know exactly what happened, altho you weren't there and witnessed nothing.....

    I'd love to see you in the same exact situation Wilson was and how you'd react.... but that's always different, isn't it?

    So you don't like the GJ's conclusion...... oh well. Live with it........
     
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    Getting attacked. Having a struggling for your gun and then being charged by a 290 lb man all while not knowing what his friend is doing is being a hysterical woman?

    Your hatred of this country is blinding you yet again.
     
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    Dear. . .If you think I "read Brown's mind" because I do not believe he intended to hurt Wilson (because if he did intend to hurt him, he wouldn't have ran away, or if he did have a gun, he would have used it when he was at the car door), it is obvious that YOU THINK that you can "read Brown's mind" by believing that HE WANTED to hurt Wilson. . . and you have no prove or no supporting evidence than he did!

    DUH!

    And, IF I had been in the same situation than Wilson. . .I would NOT have taken the chance to pull a gun and fire 10 or 12 times on someone who was RUNNING AWAY. . .and risk hurting innocent bystanders!
     
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    I go along w/what the many witnesses testified to and the evidence presented to the grand jury. If you haven't read why the GJ came to their conclusion, m/b you should....... but you won't.
     
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    I admit I haven't read the WHOLE thing. ..but then again, neither have you.

    And, the GJ didn't have ALL the information, no matter what, as the testimony that were presented, the forensic evidence, etc. . .was NEVER contested by anyone, since there was NO TRIAL.

    The prosecutor was OBVIOUSLY biased from the beginning and this is the reason why the law should be changed to assure that ANY death under police custody or during an arrest must be investigated and prosecuted by AN OUTSIDE prosecutor (or Federal prosecutor) rather than by a man whose job depends on the police force "cooperation!"
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    He was not riddled with bullets when he turned to attack and if you choose to remain igmorant of or to just simply ignore the forensic evidence as you did in the Zimmerman case I can't help you.

    And you can stick your vile and unwarranted attacks on me where the sun don't shine.
     
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    are you saying the cop did not fear for his life.... if so that would make it murder... I think the cop was definitely unloading his gun in a panic cause he feared for his life....

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    Yes exactly as was testified to in court and in the comtemporaneuos cell phone account. We know from the crime scene photos and map.

    See above.

    He ddidn't, you are asserting he should have assumed. Wrong. All you have is conjecture.
     
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    When will you learn that like with Zimmerman your conjecture is not evidence.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    Ahh who do you think would have been "contesting" the forensic evidence at trial?

    And as far as bias, YOU are the one showing your bias with your vile accusations and baseless assertions just because youbwant an innocent police officer in jail.
     
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    I have been quite clear in what I have said in noting your claims that Wilson panicked are nothing more than attempts by you to denigrate a police officer who showed courage under fire in carrying out his sworn duty. It really makes you look small.
     
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    no, we do not know that, that is not fact
     

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