Deal reached on avoiding government shutdown

This is why no one believes you and your posts are valueless. You fantasize.

Dream on, trumpette.

 

You need to re-read the Ninth Amendment. The enumerated rights are NOT our only rights and there was substantial objection to the Bill for just the reason that tyrant enablers like yourself might seize upon that idea to undermine the Constitution and oppress us.

The Founding Fathers often seem prescient, and we are all very fortunate for that

 

Its a known fact

 

What is ? Remember, we are in the age of “alternative facts”.

 

I did not mean to imply they were the only rights

But the nonth should not be used by activist liberal judges to create rights either

 

We have trials to determine the entire circumstances that surround any law infraction; that is due process, and at the trial we can examine those circumstances to see if they warrant mercy or severity, we are not Legalist China

 

Numbers, not a thing can be done about if that is what the Democrats plan. It either try to cooperate, compromise or gridlock. If nothing gets passed, I can live with that. If cooperation comes about which means moderation with what is passed, I can live with that too. Besides, one doesn't have a choice.

It a fact, the Republicans can't get anything done without the Democratic House cooperating. The Democrats can't get anything done unless the Republican senate cooperates and Trump agrees. It's either cooperation, compromise or we sit here until the new House, new senate and perhaps a new president takes office in January of 2021.

Getting upset accomplishes nothing. I would suggest the Republicans and Trump try to find a way to win back independents. The Democrats still are the larger party with the larger base, the Republicans can't win unless they win the independent vote. That is reality.

 

The existance of liberal democrat santuary states is proof that they want to pavk the voter rolls with new supporters from lstin America

 

Like most conservatives you want to limit our rights instead of expanding them. We are a free people, not a subjected one.

 

Ann Coulter is on Trump now, calling him 'yellow' for the deal.

There goes his base.

Sad

 

I am discussing wholesale ignoring of laws

In this case our immigration laws that hispanics choose not to obey

 

Why not ? Trumpettes want to throw them and their families out of the country. Even legal immigrants.

Thank you for the votes.

 

So now you want to suspend due process for Hispanics?

 

You mean the right to use addictive drugs?

To kill unborn children?

To break our immigration laws and remain in this country illegally?

Liberals want rights that should not exist

 

How about no progress for four years?

Then next two for the democrats and then two more for republicans to stymie the dems?

Or maybe four years of repub revenge and stalemate while clueless indies try to make up their minds

I’m ok with that if you are

 

The illegal aliens are here illegally

Dont you think they should be deported?

 

Dayum. Someone really needs a Midol...

 

It should take only a day or less to find out if the person in custody os here legally

If not then deport them

 

OIC, then you do want to give them due process, which is all that is.
There's a movie you might find entertaining. Born in East L A

 

I have always believed that in a free country free citizens should have the right to use any drug they want.

Unborn children aren't children

We shouldn't have immigration laws.

Liberals want to expand citizen's rights, conservatives want to expand government's restrictions

 

You are losing me now

But I will sum up for you

Migrants along the border with visas must present themselves at a US Customes border crossing

Migrants who enter the US without a a visa should be sent back to mexico the same day

And we should terminate the refugee asylum program entirely

But we already have up to 30 million illegal aliens in the country already

Pending a compromise with dems on the subject they should detained and deported when we discover them

 

If you and your family were equally free to sleep under a brifge and go hungry after to become a drug zombie I would agree with you

But our bleeding heart wipe-every-nose welfare system says otherwise

So I reserve the right to regulate addictive drugs

Like the man asid, a rose by a y other name will smell as sweet

Call them what you will, unborn children are onnocnt human beings and deserve protection under the law

Finally, no immigration laws?

I guess we will just have to leave you way out in left field with that idea

 

It tells one thing loud and clear: people have no trouble getting over a wall.

 

The wall slows them and gives BP time to react

 

Independents are looking for cooperation and compromise between the two parties. One taking far right ideas, the other far left and then meeting somewhere in the middle. The drift to the left and right has resulted in more folks leaving the two major parties, to pick and choose and vote against one or the other whenever they think one has gone overboard. In 2006 Democrats made up 36% of the electorate, Republicans 32%, independents 30%. Today those numbers are Democrats 30%, Republicans 26%, independents 43%, at least as of January 2018. Those numbers are dynamic and they change all the time, but the overall trend is the two major parties shrinking, independents rising. It's the two major parties own fault.

Compromise, here.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/220265/americans-favor-compromise-things-done-washington.aspx

Americans wanting a viable third party, a party somewhere in the middle of the two major existing parties. Here.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/244094...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

Compromise worked just fine for Republican presidents up to Trump. Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, G.H.W. Bush all had a Democratic controlled House to work with. All had to have a meeting of the minds with the other party to get things done. Bill Clinton had to work six years with a Republican congress. He did accomplish a lot. Then we got Obama and Trump, neither one was or seems willing to compromise. Outside of Obama's phone and a pen, Executive Orders, he didn't accomplish a thing after the 2010 election. Having only the ACA.

Working with the other party has been the norm up and until Obama. Now it is stand your ground, no compromise, my way or the highway. Perhaps that is the times we live in today. Most politicians, presidents, parties went by the old adage, a half of a loaf is better than no loaf at all. Today that old adage has been tossed on the trash heap of history in a give me 100% of what I want, you get nothing.