Agnostic here who has no choice but to lean heavily atheist Couldn't care less what you do there, 'logical1' ... but I would HIGHLY recommend a username change. But I am curious to know ... and what really "dont make sense" ... is why you would put your faith in something (in this case god) when there is absolutely zero credible evidence that it even exists? Seems incredibly strange to me Blind faith is for saps, in my humble opinion...
OP Speaking for myself (duh! - who else?), I don't care whether you pray or not; but tell me, how do you know that praying works? For example, if something you prayed for happens, how do you know that it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't prayed? Conversely, if you've prayed for something not to happen but it does, do you feel let down by the deity to whom you prayed? Here's a thought for you to reflect upon; presuming that your praying includes pleas for forgiveness of sins - if you stopped sinning then you wouldn't need to spend time asking that deity to forgive you, and you'd have more time to spend with the kids. or taking the dog for a walk?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli Article 11 states the US was not created as a Christian nation a decade after we became a nation this means the Founding Fathers said e were religious neutral under TREATY ratified unanimously this has the same standing as the US Constitution itself. Now being neutral then we should neither bar any religion or encourage any religion no matter how silly or how odd but the government takes sides all the time. Look at Scientology when it was starting and growing, the Mormons early as examples they should never have had issues. But you know they did. If someone founds any religion it should be fine and be left alone. So I would say we fight as skeptics religion interfering with the government they should stay out of the government, not get any government money even running charities, voting sites shouldn't be on religious sites and the government should instead stay away from religion and then in return religion stay away from the government, keeping the relationship neutral. Until we get there we must fight. We don't we get 'in god we trust' on our paper money, we get religious displays on public domain land, we get zoning boards and the authorities deciding this faith center is okay but not this odd faiths ones in some heavily Christian towns. Keep them apart. We are not a religious nation its 100% Constitutional using the precedent treaty.
It's not so much that they are atheists, more often than not it has to do with the fact that they are leftists, doing what leftists do, trying to control people while they accuse you of trying to control people, a Saul Alinsy tactic. All you have to do is read their posts to find that they usually hate Trump, conservatives, and Christianity, and for one simple reason: we vote.
Because you don't just pray to him. If you just prayed to him there would be no problem whatsoever. You judge other people based on what you claim he demands of us. You try to pass laws that everyone is forced to follow based on your personal religious beliefs. You discriminate against those who don't meet the moral standards you claim your god dictates we all follow. You repeatedly sully the dividing line between church and state, undermining the freedom this country enjoys. You see other Americans as your enemies because they don't share your religion. You hold the word of God above the law of man, creating chaos and misery and attacking the foundation of our society. We live in a pluarlistic society. There are many, many different demographics that enjoy citizenship here. The religious understand this, but it doesn't stop them from trying to force their beliefs on those who don't share them. They prosthelytize using the law. Perhaps worst of all, they pretend like they don't do any of those things. In their own heads they are doing nothing more than practicing their religion. All the **** they do out in the world, in the government, to force non believers to adhere to their religious tenets, none of that strikes them as being anything more than worship. But its so much more. Its a constant, aggressive assault on freedom. You are not just sitting in your house praying to your god. You're out there trying to do everything you can to make sure I must pray to your god too. Your religious freedom ends where my rights begin, but you have no respect for that whatsoever. Everything is justified in your mind, because the highest authority demands your actions.
This is the whole thing in a nutshell: we are against you because you vote, and because you don't vote for the things we want you to vote for, we have to crush you. There's an easy fix for this: you get as many people as you can on your side to vote, and I'll get as many people as I can on my side to vote, and we'll see who wins. That's democracy. But don't try to tell me that my freedom interferes with your freedom, that is just plain dishonest.
Most atheists don't really care that much. The ones you hear from are on this forum who enjoy debate. And even if some atheists didn't believe many Christians don't believe in evolution but care very much about the issue, many Republicans don't believe in gun control but care much about it.
do you support removing the word God from our money and pledge? and the public schools it was just added too
This is a false statement. Both the Soviet Union and Mao’s China were majority theist nations. Statistically, the people carrying out the atrocities in those nations were themselves theists.
if the federal government is respecting the establishment of a religion then you and the case problem solved. So again what is it you want?
I think you have a persecution complex. Even if someone wanted to force you to join the religion and Obey its commands you don't have to.
The government degreed national motto and currency does and should not just as the pledge does and should not. And I defend your right to do fully practice your religion and faith whatever it may be.
