Dershowitz: Jan. 6 Panel 'Doctored the Tape,' Edited Out Trump's Words

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  1. RodB

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    If I recall (and I could be wrong) you are the one who knew nothing of the 4-to5-year long blitz by the Democrats on our democracy, so I would not expect you to have any awareness of the follow on purge.
     
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    That's not an answer Rod. You're incapable of answering simple questions and offer a rant instead.
     
  3. Nemesis

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    This is post #315. It's an imaginary parade of horribles, not a rational answer, Rod.

     
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    No, Hillary has no need to run. She is coated in Teflon. She only got a tch tch for stealing the china and silverware from the white house. The FBI and Comey had her dead to rights breaking the Espionage Act but decided never mind. She has no fear nor worry whatsoever of any repercussions from things she did 5-6 years ago, no matter what Durham finds or proves.
     
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    "Blitz on Democracy" *shivering*

    I must have really been out in the weeds not to notice this horrid anti-democracy onslaught. "Like, it was real bad, and stuff. But you did not notice it!"

    Good, specific response Rod.
     
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    Wow. Durham must be incompetent not to nail Hillary with such horrible and obvious behavior. I thank you for your vivid use of the English language to paint such a clear picture of her behavior and crimes. Wow--if only Durham was reading your posts so he could indict her!
     
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    Not either, accurate or cleaver. Disingenuous and obtuse is more like it.
     
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    1, McEnroe was wrong as are you, the umpire was right as am I, when was Trump found guilty of ANY of that? Do tell?
    2, Mueller concluded there was not enough evidence to prosecute Trump, ergo he is innocent
    3. Yes I have, now respond to my inquiry rather than begging me to stop demanding the facts to prove your assertion from you.
     
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    1. You must have a time machine. Tell me, Rob---did you drive a DeLorean at 88 MPH and see that Trump wasn't prosecuted?

    Time will prove me right. I'm a patient man.

    2. Mueller did not conclude that there was not enough evidence. He concluded that he only had access to evidence that was insufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a conspiracy. He also noted that he was limited by uncooperative, dishonest or unavailable witnesses, encrypted evidence, or overseas witnesses. Moreover, he only concluded that on the conspiracy issue. He concluded that Congress should do something about the obstruction of justice portion of the report, but he could not due to limitations on indicting a sitting president.

    3. What "inquiries"? READ THE MUELLER REPORT. Your posts make it painfully apparent that you have not idea what it says.
     
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    1. Patience grasshopper.
    2. NO! BARR concluded. Mueller concluded that tRaitor tRump was guilty of obstruction of justice but it was up to Congress to pursue it and the DOJ to prosecute; like that would happen.
     
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    Why, Napolitano is a craazzzzzy liberal! He must be lying, und stuff!
     
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    Nice erudite post, but Durham has zero authority to investigate let alone indict the crimes I cited.
     
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    You didn't cite anything, Rod. Maybe you thought about it, but you didn't do it.

    You could try by telling the forum about the limitations placed upon Durham. Go!
     
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    Mueller's testimony under oath to congress that he wasn't obstructed not withstanding, I suppose.
     
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    Americans should have learned from the Mueller investigation, that they can't believe anything that leftists or the leftist media says. But they didn't. They went right out and voted according to their conditioning, and elected Joe Biden. I tried watching the committee, but there was no objectivity. Trumps guilt is a foregone conclusion. And the search is about how bad Trumps sucks or how culpable he is, not whether or not he is. Many of these same people are driving the threats of violence against the Supreme Court for defending the Constitution. The hypocritical left is murdering the truth in broad daylight, which they follow with denial across the spectrum. And that to them is progress, democracy and freedom.
     
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    Yes I did: her stealing the white house china and silverware (minor), and violating the Espionage Act (major). I politely avoided her destruction of subpoenaed evidence (major) and her lying under oath to congress (usually dicey).
    A special prosecutor can investigate things that were explicitly stated in his appointment letter and not one single thing more.
     
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    Talk to Michael Flynn, Carter Page for example.
     
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    Your picky-choosy leaves much to be desired. Mueller explicitly testified under oath to congress that his investigation was not obstructed by Trump. On the other hand he testified, wrote and said that he did not exonerate Trump. This is because no prosecutor worth anything ever exonerates anybody for anything. Even in a court of law a defendant is found "not guilty", never "innocent." It is because they do not want to burn bridges for stuff they might not know at the time. And in Muller's case he was dropping as many bread crumbs that he could for congress to maybe find something.
     
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    When you can address the subject here and not disenginously try to divert let know. And BTW editing out the hubris from a post is not against forum rules. This is
    5. TROLLING OR DERAILING A DISCUSSION

    You still have this on the table

    What is fake here?

    We already had the facts exposed and that is that the Clinton campaign conspired with Fusion GPS to Chris Steele to produce the phony Russia collusion hoax and then used Joffe, who was looking for a WH job in a Clinton administration, to use his firms national security cyber research to create the phony Alpha Bank hoax. They then took the phony stories to their cohorts at the FBI and lied to some about the source it is believed others were aware and convinced them the press produced it and urged them to open an investigation. They did and then the Clinton campaign went and told the press the FBI had opened and investigation and they better star reporting about it.
     
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    It was a witch hunt. They found no witches. Doesn't mean they don't exist, says the left. They would know because they are the witch.
     
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    That is the story created by Rep. John Ratcliffe but it's just not true.
     
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    No, you did NOT. Making a claim without supporting sources isn't "citing" to anything, Rod. Please use sources.
     
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    The standard retort around here when an unassailable claim is made is "Give me the link" even if the claim is common knowledge and well-known fact. You want a source that she broke the Espionage Act? Comey's televised statement not good enough? Or that she lied under oath to congress? Comey's videotaped testimony under oath to congress not good enough?
     
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    You are trying to refute @Bluesguy assertion about the dossier being a key factor in the administration's covert and surreptitious operation to defame Trump. You said (I think -- the PF posting was faulty), ."... Ratcliffe is wrong to say the dossier “started all of this.” Competing memos from the Republicans and the Democrats on the House intelligence committee both say that information about George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, had prompted the FBI investigation in July 2016" You are trying to get us to believe that Papadopoulos triggered the effort. But that is not what @Bluesguy claimed. Why on earth would anybody dig into him other than to try to find more stuff on Trump? They wouldn't; they would have no cause or reason. They were already hell's bent to get Trump when they ran across Papadopoulos.

    I don't know why you think it is meaningful that some Republicans refuted Trump. The leadership Republicans that are never Trumpers are numerous
     

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