Dershowitz to Newsmax: Dems Would 'Trash the Constitution' to 'Get Trump'

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You are projecting your hypocrisy onto others . . . again.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    For the sake of argument, I will presume what you say there is true and accurate, and if true, that would not surprise me, all things considered.

    All things considered, there is ample facts and evidence that there were highly irregular goings-on with the voting in several states. Those facts and evidence include hundreds of affidavits from many different places regarding highly irregular goings-on by people involved in supervising the elections, and more than 3 or 4 statistical analyses done after the vote by statisticians showing that the results in several precincts and jurisdictions were impossible numerically.

    Fast forward to May 2022, and the work of True The Vote as shown in 2000 Mules strongly corroborated the hundreds of affidavits filed by election workers.

    So it seems likely that Trump's supporters knew the election had been stolen, and knew that courts and other supposedly honorable government officials were involved in cover-up.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    All of the claims you are talking about have been thoroughly debunked. Even Trump's own advisors told him so, and we can go by them 1 by 1 if you want. Regardless, even if this wasn't bullshit (and it absolutely is), that still doesn't excuse trashing the Constitution and trying to have oneself installed as an unelected dictator.
     
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    Noone Well-Known Member

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    Link that.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No they have not been debunked. Quite the contrary, they have been corroborated by 2000 Mules and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

    You won't watch it because it threatens your worldview. Don't worry, many Americans (many if not most humans) experience cognitive dissonance. Some succumb immediately, some are able to rise above it.

    Propaganda does not deceive people, it merely helps them deceive themselves. :peace:
     
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    The affadavits were much less impressive than Giuliani suggested. Here's an article on them: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/20/affidavit-giuliani-vote-fraud/

    Some asserted fraud they hadn't witnessed. Some complained about the conditions in the polling station, not alleging fraud at all. One said “I specifically noticed that every ballot I observed was cast for Joe Biden". She was in Detroit, where Biden won 94% of the vote. A famous one, by Melissa Carone, was proved to be false - she claimed ballots were counted multiple times, but an audit showed that the vote total matched the number of ballots.

    Bill Barr gave a critique of 2000 Mules; it's not complimentary. The basic point is he says the DoJ determined that the phone GPS data cited as evidence of fraud was entirely to be expected in a population of millions of people.
     
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    Can you provide a link to the statistician's report asserting results in certain jurisdiction were impossible?
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you dont see the irony in claiming that the dems want to "shred the constitution" after what Donald Trump admitted he tired to do in Jan 6th, then your not paying attention
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Anybody, including Donald Trump, who believes a word Bill Barr says is most gullible.

    I've read just a few of the affidavits, but I've watched several statisticians analyze the numbers. I do my own thinking. Even though I hold Trump in low regard, the 2020 election was clearly stolen. Biden is an imposter and a traitor.
     
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    If you want to talk about 2,000 Mules, we can start there. It is complete bull ****.

    1) They lied about the accuracy of the signal tracing. Cell phone signal tracing can be as accurate as within 1 meter or more than 10 meters. All their "research" shows is that there were several devices that passed within a few feet of more than one box. That's pretty much it.
    2) If they were honest (and they aren't), then they would have used this same methodology to establish control groups in other cities and in time periods before and after the election. Even an junior high student doing well in their science classes would have thought of this, but they didn't fact or it it.
    3) Despite claiming to have millions of hours of video footage, they didn't show ANY footage of the same person visiting more than one box. Think about that. They bragged about how much video footage they had . . . but couldn't produce ANY video footage of their core claim. Sorry, but they are just counting on their audience turning off their brains. Unfortunately, it paid off.
    4) In trying to establish their credentials, the company outright lied about help solve a cold murder case. They. Were. Willing. To. Lie. About. A. Dead. ****ing. Child. Think about that.

    Unlike the people who turned off their brains so that they could swallow the braindead vomit this documentary was force-feeding them, I was willing to actually think critically about this. You are projecting your failures onto others.

    Thank you for summarizing the fake "documentary" you are praising in a single sentence.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Old news Omni. I do keep notes on things I read and see, but not everything I read and see. What I saw was late 2020, early '21. Sorry you missed it.

    2000 Mules confirms what I suspected.
     
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    You've proven that, no, you don't do your own thinking. You've fallen for one of the most laughably idiotic "documentaries" ever. Want to talk about the fake statistics next? Please tell me this isn't about the Benford's Law bullshit. Please tell me we aren't dealing with something that dumb.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL, next thing you're gonna tell me that Bill Barr gave it a thumbs down, or that Bill Clinton did not have sex with that woman, or that TWA800 blew up from fumes in its fuel tanks. :roflol:
     
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    Why do you think Barr is "an imposter and a traitor"?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Next thing you know you will actually think about this critically instead of running away and hiding behind emojis, completely incapable of a rational or honest response. Just kidding. We both know that will never happen.

    I'm sorry the facts were inconvenient for your latest favorite conspiracy garbage.
     
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    Fun question for you @Eleuthera : if 2,000 Mules were so honest and accurate . . . why did they use maps of ****ing MOSCOW and pretend it was a US city?
     
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    I remember some of that crap from 2020. It was flawed/fake math that people ran with, and ignored anything that showed that it was pure BS
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I never said Barr is an imposter and a traitor. I said Biden is an imposter and a traitor.

    Barr is a loyal member of the Deep State, and he proved that back during Iran Contra. Thus describing him as an imposter and a traitor is likely very accurate.
     
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    Wasn't it Michigan where there was a court case/allegation of fraud in specific counties that didn't even exist in the state?
     
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    Oh! Dear! Was it that bad?

    I keep wondering why the Trump team did not take that “evidence” to court? There is a legal Avenue to present evidence
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I bought the DVD and watched it 3 times. What you post above is pure poppycock. Once again, you demonstrate you do not know what on earth you are talking about. :thumbsdown:
     
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    I watched Dr Strange Madness in the Multiverse multiple times where on every single alternate earth Trump won in a landslide

    Aren't fantasy movies awesome....
     
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    Then you haven't done your research. Big surprise. Yes, they included maps of Moscow. Once again, you demonstrate that you have no idea what you are talking about and neither do your sources.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Simple answer BB--many US courts are just as corrupt as the courts Down Under.

    More, it is complicated by the fact that Trump is either hated or loved. I remain neutral on that. I hold him in low regard, but I avoid hatred. :angel:
     
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    Lol, dude, not even his own appointees were willing to back him up.
     
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