Did Roddenberry pattern Star Trek's Klingons after Arabs & Muslims? StarDestroyer.Net BBS • View topic - Muslims=Klingons??? bbs.stardestroyer.net › Board index › Non-Fiction › Off-Topic Feb 3, 2003 - 25 posts - ‎11 authors Only differences between >>>MOD EDIT RULE 2<<< and Klingons are the technology and the honor. ..... You don't have to be an arab to be a muslim. Inquiring minds want to know.
Muhammad Would Love Star Trek By Sumbul Ali-Karamali author As a practicing Muslim, I’m always answering questions, and it’s amazing how often Star Trek works its … Continued http://www.faithstreet.com/onfaith/2009/06/18/muhammad-would-have-loved-star-trek/8607
[video=youtube;BpyC0IaT7oY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpyC0IaT7oY[/video] Uploaded on Aug 28, 2008 In the 24th century of the "Star Trek" universe, there is a ruthless enemy called "The Borg" who attack anyone not part of them. It's "submit to our way" or "death to the unwilling". In this scene, the captain of the U.S.S. Enterprise confers with his officers on what to do about The Borg. Today's terrorism is exclusively the result of the warped, blood-thirsty Muslim ideology ("death to the infidel"). When the name of "The Borg" is removed from this Star Trek: The Next Generation clip, what emerges is a 24th century message to this Borg of OUR day. To the mind-numbed captives of Islam, a messge from the 24th century: free yourselves of the lies and foul practices that you call "submit". Humanity awaits your return to sanity and freedom.
This is really pretty clever, though it doesn't make sense to me. [video=youtube_share;Pa6R2iULsxQ]http://youtu.be/Pa6R2iULsxQ[/video]
What many folks mistakenly label as racism is actually, in many cases, simply the painful truth which Muslims or apologists try to discredit by calling it racism. Also, Muslims come in all races. And telling the truth about Islam is not racism. Now, having said that, what is your point?
that, indeed, Mohammed could well have loved Roddenberry's works which is the thesis in that original link
Actually, the television series "Star Trek" in its original form, out around 1966 and part of 1967, didn't do well until it hit syndication. Because it was science-fiction, it tackled most of the problems associated with the Cold War and racism of the 1960's, and could get by the tv censor's because it was sci-fi. Many of its episodes were idealistic regarding a world where the nations had united and there no longer were racial or nationalistic problem's on earth, and the crew confronted similar problems of our world in outer space and solved them. It was dramatic. Its time slot was terrible on, I think, Thursday nights. It was a show for generally well educated people, engineer-types they were referred as or politically active ones. The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King personally insisted that signalman Uhura, who wanted to depart the show after the first season, remain on the set in her officer position, because she represented Black america, shown in a positive light. She, of course, remained with the crew and show through its entire run, and also through the movies that were created from the original show, one of the few television series' to make the leap with success to the Silver Screen, and also spawn off three separate television series. Star Trek was very well written, Gene Roddenbury's wife is the blond nurse, however, as the show progressed, his ideas' got wilder and wilder, and he was slowly pushed iunbto the background, until, by the time of "Star Trek-The Motion Picture" only his name was being used. He no longer had any authority on the Paramount set. Harve Bennett had taken over the series and movie making. I had the opportunity to speak with Gene Roddenbury in California back in the late 1970's, and asked him about a Star Trek movie, he said the only thing holding it back was Leonard Nemoy's reluctance to resurrect the character of "Mr. Spock" - who eventually would end up as one of movies and televisions most beloved parts. That was all Nemoy's doing - the character could have ended up as a serious flop and Donald Duck dunce without his excellent portrayal. I am not aware that Roddenbury ever gave any interviews regarding who he based any of his stories on, but they were idealistic to 1960's hopes for a better world, most of them. Unfortunately, the dummies who rate films and television in Hollywood, have never seen fit to award a special Academy Award to that entire cast of character's, of which Nimoy and the man who played engineer Scotty, have already passed on. Without the Star Trek world based problem's done in sci-fi mode, setting the stage, it would have been impossible for Norman Lear to later introduce Archie Bunker and "All In The Family" which tackled real world problems of race, homosexuality, draft dodging, politics, etc., in real life. Kudos to "Star Trek" - only the James Bond series is a larger franchise than what Roddenbury's original "Star Trek" themes moved to. Thumbs down to Paramount, which has made millions and millions over the decades on the Star Trek franchise, for not pushing for a special Academy Award for the original cast members. Have watched Hollywood's "elite" vote the Oscar to some really dumb and dumber actor's, actresses and movies over the years - one for Star Trek's cast is long, long, long overdue..........
Star Trek ... I was a child when I watched the first movie at cinema. Note that in Italy the TV series arrived after it, so it generated a bit of confusion. I fell in love with those personages and I'm among the "purists" who didn't appreciate that much the Next Generation [Picard & Co.]. Late 70's, early 80's ... the Shuttle was taking off, the thrust to reach the space was still well alive and so, that star ship was fantastic in my eyes. Great recalls! I agree about a special Academy Award [also in memory of whom is no more], but just the Italian experience with the Academy, which tends to give Awards to Italian "particular" productions ignoring the best ones, makes me think that the commercial and business pressures are anyway heavy on that institutions [despite what they say or sustain]. So, probably you're right, it's the Major which didn't do enough about the Academy.
For those in the know they are fully aware that the hallmark of Roddenberry's life was his hatred for racism.
The original Klingons were based on the Soviet Union later one they took on more "viking" attributes. The Romulans were obviously based on the old Roman empire, they even use the same ranks. Thinking that they based the Klingons on Muslims is just plain (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiotic and this thread is a testament to utter stupidity.
Yeah I always thought Mongolian or Japanese. Valuing honor and prowess in battle, being very aggressive. Seems like them. I don't recall a huge religious thing with them - which fits more with the Mongolians/Japanese than Muslims. Soviets I don't see at all. Vikings? Maybe. I actually think the Klingons seem more ruthless than the Vikings were (more like the Mongolians), but berserking does seem Klingon-like.
It is a strange, revisionist history thread will give you that. Romulans were related to Vulcan's, and based on ancient Rome, as one excellent episode pointed out so clearly. Same rank - same salute - same Senate, same vocabulary to describe their empire, same dress. The rest of the time, just about any enemy Kirk & Company went up against, usually was based on race or stand-in's for the old Soviet empire, some even attacked ancient Greek God's. Another excellent episode had an international space detective who had checkerboard white and black skin, chasing a dangerous criminal who had checkerboard black and white skin, and was such an obvious anti-racism episode, was actually surprised it made it past the censor's. However, as I posted before, Roddenbury with "Star Trek" tackled all the social problems of the nervous 1960's, with an idealism that appealed to America's nature. Even Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. saw it as such when he encouraged Uhura to remain as an officer member of the cast when she wanted to quit after the first season. It showed a Black female in a position of responsibility and authority, and they dressed her up quite sexy. We also had a Scottish engineer, an oriental helmsman, an American doctor' and a Russian weapons expert on the crew. Something for everybody. The Kirk - Uhura kiss on television was a stunning episode that breathed fire into the heart's of most Southern men at a time when interracial sex was taboo. It was an unsuccessful television show - but took off in syndication later into the mass appeal the franchise still enjoys today. I don't see the thread as utter stupidity, but more of an intellectual challenge - better than tossing the old racist tennis ball back and forth across the net between Obama and Bush, Jr., which seems to be the staple of Political Forum's threads daily. For those of us who watched it in our younger days, "Star Trek" was a beacon of hope in a dangerous world...........
