Do you agree with racism on the internet and profanity in general?

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Should profanity or racism not be punishable by most sites?

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  1. ALFORCE

    ALFORCE Member

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    Do you agree that it should be part of freedom of speech?

    I agree that people like politicians shouldnt post any comment that they want.

    But there are sites that encourage racist and/or profane humor, for example, youtube which doesnt ban users for their comments.

    I am actually a member of another more dark site.. and I dont get insulted, even the fact that I am a Jew and some people post jokes relating to Hitler.



    What do you think?
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    If a political site wants to be successful, it has to have a lot of limits on language, etc. Otherwise it will deteriorate into chaos in no time. Racism and profanity should be limited. That said, there should be no government requirement of the above. Racism, while heinous, is legal, and the government should not be allowed to censor racism or profanity.

    A site like this does not have to have complete freedom of speech, and should not have it. It's a private enterprise, which is allowed to censor.

    I can't understand the strange language in your polling question, so I can't properly respond to it. Does a "yes" mean you approve of censorship of sites, or does it mean you don't?
     
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  3. ALFORCE

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    "yes" means you are against censorship.

    But youtube has no regulation on its content. Is it a bad site? Do people run away from it?
     
  4. Passacaglia

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    I consider profanity to be very different from racism, and I don't think that censoring the latter necessitates censoring the former.

    I've found that sites which censor racism and other outright wrong -ism's generally have a much higher quality of conversation. In fact I think this one could benefit from a bit more.
     
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  5. ALFORCE

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    I think the words 'much higher quality of conversation' imply that you are racist..lolz

    I dont think that there would be an interesting conversation regarding races.. But the humor would be better. . not necessarily offensive too.
     
  6. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crap poll.

    I agree with being able to say whatever you'd like online.

    I don't agree with censorship.

    If however sites/server hosts censor, it's their right.
     
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    You're not really an objective judge for such a thing.

    "If it seems like the media is biased toward the American Left, that's because the American Left is biased toward the facts."


     
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    Of course youtube has regulation on it's content. Try to post some pornography on there, and see what happens.

    I was specifically talking about political forums like this one.
     
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  9. perdidochas

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    It was better, but we've had a big influx of stormfront refugees, and the mods don't seem to want to do much about their incessant anti-Semitism.
     
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    Ah, I had forgotten that the Lamefront's host pulled its plug, it only makes sense that we'd get some of its crazies. What are PF's rules about hate -ism's, if any? I read the rules when I registered, but they haven't stuck with me. I'll have to take another look.
     
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    It's just slightly less reading than "War and Peace". Not to mention ambiguous and subjective. :grin:
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?help/terms

     
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    Who are these "stormfront refugees"? Name them.
     
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    Can't do that, I have done something like it in the past, and I've gotten infractions for calling individual posters out. You certainly are not one of them.
     
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    I disagree. One should be able to discuss even crass, offensive subjects / ideas. However, if the only way you can express your thinking is through the use of profanity or obscenities, that thinking is probably at the very least in need of some refinement. That's my view, FWIW.

    I agree 100% with every one of your points.
     
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    To be more specific, there's a difference between censoring discussion of wrong -ism's; topics like Why do So Many People Hate Jews? are more-or-less civil, informative, and helpful. And censoring the expression or promotion of wrong -ism's; posts like "Anti-Semitism is a very natural response once you learn about how evil most Jews are" are wrong, hostile, and subversive. (Props to the mods for censoring at least that one self-declared and blatant case of antisemitism.) Censoring the expression and promotion of wrong -ism's is what I've seen have a sharply positive effect on a forum's general quality of conversation.

    As for profanity, I think I just don't like the idea that I have to live by what the larger culture has arbitrarily designated as 'bad words.' But it has, so maybe you're right.
     
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    Mostly I agree to pretty much entire freedom of speech. I think this board has reasonable policies to prevent attacking other members
     
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    Welllllllllll . . . the problem is when political forums confuse Political Correctness with intelligent guidelines for determining what is or is not racism. For instance for most of the entire Obama Administration the former Dem Party president practiced leftist approved Politically Correct race baiting and race agitating - and Obama's followers as well - which was automatically given a free pass in every instance across the board. Conservatives calling lefitsts on their bad habits were auto-labeled as bigots and racists.

    So sans hard and fast rules FAIRLY applied to both sides one merely ends up with a leftist dominated site wherein Politically Correct race baiting and agitating and open hatred against Whites is practiced and sanctioned as a matter of course.
     
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    The biggest idiots on this planet are leftists playing the race card (immigration) where there is no race card in the deck. :roflol: Trump is repeatedly accused of being racist for wanting to stop and deport illegal immigrants which by and large are mostly Caucasian. Utter pure ignorance from the usual lefty participants, Spanish is a European language and South America is mostly that with some native American blood mixed in. Idiots.
     
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    Yes, and yet pointing that out to the Left gets one labeled as either a bigot or a racist. That's why successful political forums have got to step carefully where the Left's mania for ramming Political Correctness into everything is concerned. They cannot cleave to leftist definitions of bigotry and racism and maintain a viable forums system filled with vigorous and open discussions. In fact, if they do embrace the Left's definitions then they might as well simply be an adjunct to the DNC and MSNBC and The Huffington Post.
     
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    I get to tell you what you can or cannot say on my property. So can the owners of assorted web sites. You are not entitled to use my megaphone for your racist 'humor' or racist propaganda, so that you can be heard better.
     
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    Racism and and profanity are equal?

    Dark site?

    Russia much?
     
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    I think websites can do whatever they want. It's their property.
     
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    Americans will opt for free speech more often than not. Comedy, entertainment, music....if they all had to be tactfully kosher, they wouldn't be nearly as good.
     
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    What consequences does that attacking has?
    You area a youtube member, arent you? when was the last time you were attacked and you cried?
    I should be call someone a dumb@ss, if they bring a stupid argument. It would only do them good if they take the point seriously.

    That is not the point of the discussion. An owner can decide who to ban, and for what reason. But if you have a political forum, I would expect you to be a bit open minded, and let me people express themselves freely. I do have a right to say that Islam or Judaism are stupid religions while arguing for it.. and I do need to to have a right for profanity..because no one has suffered from it.. youtube proves it, it is a site of millions of members of all ages, who come back daily.
     
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