Do you believe Trump when he says he's taking hydroxychloroquine?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, May 19, 2020.

  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Why do you continue to deflect? It’s not the president’s fault you can’t understand what a prediction is versus someone stating something as a certainty.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    English a second language or something the people being tested with chloroquine in the VA study were at death's door. They weren't going to live another 14 years with or without chloroquine.
     
  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This thread is about Trump taking Hydroxychloroquine. Under his circumstances it is fine. Hospital workers are taking it for the same reason.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know...
    If you're going to say something like that...
    It might be better to do a little proofreading...
    It might make you look a little less dumb...
    I doubt it but there's always hope.
     
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    Dodge try failed.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, but the optics are not good, Trump says nothing to fear, then he shows how fearful he is when it's himself facing the threat
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we know, Trump supporters like to attack other posters when they are losing an argument, sad!

    I never said he was saying that, so your straw man is a fail, he lied, period, he lies all the time, that is just Trump

    but nice try struth, it's hard defending Trump lies, but someone's gotta do it I suppose

    he is another one for you to defend, "anyone that wants a test, can get a test"
     
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  8. Bluesguy

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    His doctor confirmed that's all you need.
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why does LITERALLY everything Trump does trigger his opponents.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    maybe, Trump says that, don't know that, do not even know he is telling the truth about taking this drug, his last doctor confirmed he was not obese too.. do you believe that?
     
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  11. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    source, please
     
  12. struth

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    I wasn’t losing an argument...I didn’t realize you were arguing.

    I wasn’t.

    there is nothing to argue about...a prediction is different then a lie...basic concept. Sorry you don’t grasp it
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    The DOCTOR SAID IT. And Pelosi attacked him, falsely, for his weight basically called him fat. What if he did that towards Statey Abrahams do I think you and the MSM would be sitting there saying "no big deal"? Don't insult my intelligence.
     
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    Obviously because he's such a poor excuse for a human being and was made president.
     
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    I was thinking, as I watched the clip on the news, is this how the Trump presidency ends? A heart attack.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, let's just focus on voting him out of office :)
     
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    Just because a drug is approved for hepatitis does not mean that it will cure heart disease...except perhaps on the Planet of the Covidiots!
     
  19. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    As ALWAYS you have neglected to demonstrate that you have any basic subject matter knowledge which explains why you are ALWAYS wrong!

    :roflol:
     
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    I don't see how its so far fetched... I've been chugging tonic water (with quinine) with my zinc vitamins with no ill effect. Did Trump say what dose he was taking?
     
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    Sadly they no longer make tonic water with enough quinine to do any good. Not since Bogie made the African Queen and avoided malaria by drinking gin and tonics.
    A little trivia. The Brits invented gin specifically for the purpose of making tonic water palatable for those living in malaria endemic zones. Best thing to come from colonialism.
     
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    According to the interwebs:

    "A • Doctors used to prescribe quinine pills to prevent leg cramps. The standard dose was between 200 and 300 mg of quinine. The Food and Drug Administration banned quinine for this purpose but continues to allow it in tonic water. A liter normally has 83 mg of quinine."

    So, ya, you'd have to drink a 2 liter bottle and half of another one to get a standard 'dose.' Which was why I asked if Trump said what his dosage was. He might not be taking a full dose, which would make sense if he's taking it as a preventative instead of a treatment. Quinine (and hydroxychloroquine) both work as a catalyst to getting zinc to where it can fight infection. If the zinc is already built up, its harder for the infection to get a foothold, so one wouldn't need as high a dose as one would if it were being used to treat an infection that was already established.

    Additionally, if one is taking quinine/hydroxychloroquine while deficient in zinc, it will, at best, do nothing, and likely increase the side effects of the drug.
     
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    You are not capable of showing me where I was wrong.

    You are also exaggerating. No one is always wrong. That is a physical impossibility.
     
  24. struth

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    Cool glad we aren’t talking about a drug for helatitis
     
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    YOUR own posts show where you are wrong however it is YOU that is incapable of grasping WHY you are wrong.

    In this instance you just demonstrated your absence of knowledge regarding HIPAA and you do the same thing EVERY TIME you decide to troll my posts so yes, it is entirely possible for you to be always wrong as far as I am concerned.
     

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