Do you support gay marriage?

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Do you support gay marriage?

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  2. No

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  1. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

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    How have the republicans increased the size of the government? What governmental agencies have the democrats created as opposed to the republicans?
     
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    Seriously? The biggest example is the largest government agency in US history: the DHS.

    Do you recall the last time the Republicans reduced the deficit?
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    The "separate but equal" accommodation gave way to legitimate equality, and the progress that has been achieved in all advanced western democracies will eventually be evidenced even in the Islamic theocracies now so virulently supportive of the State dictating gender discrimination.
     
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    Okay. Fine. Do you support two gay people in a civil union that would provide them the same legal status as a married couple?


    OR take it even further. Would you support removing all governmental recognition of Married in terms of the legal benefits it provides?


    OR. :) Do you believe that hetrosexual people should receive preferential treatment by the government?
     
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    Oh they most likely are Christians but the have Heterodox beliefs that are not supported by scripture, tradition, or the Church fathers. I commend them on on their compassion but they are not upholding sound doctrine.
     
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    I didn't realize that I would have to spell it out, but ok. If the individual decides to quit their government job, then they are no longer a government official, and thus are no longer required to perform any official task with which they disagree. My statement was.made with a premise of them remaining in their job. This premise extends into the private sector as well. Ifone is an employee then they are required to do as the owner wishes, whether they agree with it or not, and of course they have the option to quit. Any entity, religious organization, business, individual, that is not.part.of the government should have the ability to determine which actions they should and shouldn't do, within reason and context.
     
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    Again, this is according to how you understand and believe your religion. Others believe differently. Their beliefs are no more or less valid than your own. Or maybe more accurately, the validity of yours and their beliefs will never be proven upon this plain in such a amanner that there can be no doubt.
     
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    Well, to be fair it is not how I belief alone. I am following the doctrine as set down by scripture, tradition, and interpretation of multiple Church Fathers through history. The problem with modern Christianity is that people think you can just pick and choose what ever you want to believe and discard the rest. While some things are definitely less important then others, this fracturing of the body of Christ is a grave threat to the immortal souls of the people. Because while some variation is harmless, the farther one goes the greater the chance that the aberration become significant to the point of corruption.
     
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    Yes, exactly!

    Actually no, someome asked how a gay marriage differs from a straight marriage. The latter involves at least one weiner.

    I guess you could have two women who were born male but who self identify as trans and who both want to cut off their weiners.

    That would be a mess. The marriage I mean
     
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    Sorry for the spelling I was in a hurry
     
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    That makes one of us.
    is your worst enemy - so much so that you can't tolerate it in others, much less yourself. That's why you're here trying to poke people's eyes out.
    But we can't call a "gay marriage" whatever we want. That's what Obergefell was all about. You get that, right?
    So you're OK with abject lunacy being encoded into what passes in the minds of most for US law. Have I got that about right?
    No, no and no.
     
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    And that would be you since you just decided to not argue against anything I said, but pick out two words and went off in another direction. But I get it. When you can't make a valid argument attack the person so you can feel bigger.

    Really? And exactly what freedom am I advocating to be removed ? And do please supply at least a post number for a quote, and not make up something you think I support.
     
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    Nobody wants to read sarcastic posts like that.
     
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    So in Your world lesbians aren’t gay...
     
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    Why are you speaking for me? I love sarcasm
     
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    Sure, that's why you apologized and I didn't, right?
    Nothing to be sorry about there, obviously, given the direction you prefer.
    Yeah, really.
    The freedom to call a spade a spade, a pervert a pervert, and so on.
    kma
    Yeah, well I'd guess anyone with such antipathy and >3000 posts has probably figured out the ignore feature. How about you?
     
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    Just as I thought, no substance to counter with so you go all ad hominem. Oh and guess what? You still have that freedom to call whatever you think it is, that word. Freedom of Speech is a wonderful thing and still around. You've not lost it. Freedom of Speech has never protected you from being called out on your idiocy of labeling though. So can't lose what you never had.

    Kma? Why that is asking me to commit a gay act! How perverted!

    BTW, that was sarcasm, like the one sorry was. Actually the sorry was more sympathy over you gross lack of historical knowledge.
     
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    That's all I am saying, no one should be required by law to do anything which goes against their beliefs. If gays are allowed by law to get married some would target churches to obtain money or 15 minutes of fame unless the law was framed in such a way to prevent it. Just like the baker was targeted so would churches and religious organizations. I would have no problem with same sex marriages if political activist would keep their noses out of it.
     
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    Looks to me like democrats have always tried to overspend republicans.
     
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    I'm surprised, but okay. Sarcasm conveys nothing but the writer's sense that he is better than thee.
     
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    Correct, followed by the Republicans trying to outspend Democrats. Sad.
     
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    If people like you have your way, I will.
    Be that as it may, there was nothing sarcastic about the post you whined about. It was a perfectly straightforward question.
     
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    So you believe that hetrosexual couples should receive preferential treatment?
     
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    I'm pretty sure we're together on this. My biggest thing is preventing incidents like that one woman who refused to do her government job, but wouldn't step down from it.
     
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    And yet still not one bit of supportable evidence on your claims. Of course, part of your problem is your disillusionment on what your Freedom of Speech entails. You absolutely have the right to say what you wish about gays and trans and whoever else. Other people's Freedom of Speech allows them to call you out on your lies or false premises, or to admonish you for going against thier beliefs as much as you are admonishing other for going against yours. You should really learn more.on how Freedoms actually work.
     

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