Does atheism poise a safety risk to Christians?

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Is the ideology of atheism as practiced in the USA poise a safety danger to Christians?

  1. Yes

    10 vote(s)
    21.3%
  2. No

    37 vote(s)
    78.7%
  1. AlifQadr

    AlifQadr Well-Known Member

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    Do tell . . . Seriously though, Christians are a paranoid bunch, especially the American Christians.
     
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    Hitler was neither a Christian nor an atheist, he was a Deist. "Gottgläubig" in German. He believed in a personal God but didn't identify with any existing religion. This was a pretty important movement in Germany during that time.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottgläubig

    "The Führer is deeply religious, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay." - Goebbels.
     
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    Ok so for the sake of accuracy, I should've said:

    "Extremism and intolerance are the danger, whether it be from atheists, muslims or other christians.

    There does seem to be extremism growing amongst those who dont believe in an invisible man in the sky, but not yet enough to constitute a threat worthy of response. Its likely just a response itself to the rejection of the progressivism that has been atheism's sociologocal ally. Given a bit more time, atheists will 'get over' their ally's demise and move on."

    Is that better?
     
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  4. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the point of it. If I start 3 dozen more (won't) it'd start to balance out, unless as a population ratio and then it'd have to be a couple hundred.
     
  5. HonestJoe

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    This is just a lesser example of the violence in the name of beliefs, there are a handful of idiots making negative posts against their perceived opponents from all sorts of directions. That's a function of their individual failings, not that of the ideas or principles they claim to represent.
     
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    What I notice about atheists is that, because they are faithless and I assume believe in no sort of judgment, they often don't have any conscience. Therefore, if you interfere with their plan for a "perfect world" (which they really do believe in and want to make for everyone), they have no problem with hurting you and they won't feel bad about it. On the other hand, I figure if you are armed with a weapon and have the will to use it, they would most likely run like rabbits. Because, again, in their minds there is nothing in the hereafter, when they die, it's just over, lights out. So that makes it a very scary thing. They are missing the courage that people of faith have.

    So I vote yes and no.
     
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  7. Renee

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    Tell me this extremism and how it affects your life.
     
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    I nominate this for the silliest post yet. Because we do not believe in an invisible man in the sky who will judge us and if he doesn’t like us he will send us to hell to burn… But he loves usI .You see good people don’t need this invisible man to tell us what is right or wrong because we have a conscience. You are saying that without belief in the supernatural you would be a person of low morals..You need to be afraid in order to do the right things. You remind me a kid who believes in Santa Claus and she believes that he knows if she is good or bad and if she is bad he will leave coal in her stocking. If she is good she’ll get toys. Kind a like hell and heaven. Some people don’t need to believe in the here after. We are grown up enough to know that when we die, we die. But if it makes you better to believe that you were going to go up to heaven with little wings and angels and Everything will be perfect, so be it .I am glad you get that pleasure. But don’t put down people who cannot embrace the Impossible and suspend all logical thinking. Have you ever read Greek mythology and all the wonderful stories about the afterlife? I bet they sound ridiculous to you but it’s just variation on the theme
     
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    This thread highlights that religion is/has become politicised in the US. Astonished at the ignorance shown in thread by the OP and other posters.
     
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    Complete and utter fallacy!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/17/columbine-massacre-gun-crime-us

    Uncorroborated allegation from someone who wasn't even there.
    Complete and utter fallacy based entirely upon the shooter "liking" an article on a website.
    The allegations against atheists in the OP are baseless fabrications.

    This OP is nothing but flamebait.
     
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    You think conscience requires a threat of judgement from some external force? I’d suggest the exact opposite, that conscience is doing the right thing even if nobody would ever know based only on your own internal moral compass. Doing the right thing based on the fear of judgement alone suggests you wouldn’t do the right thing if you could get away with it.
     
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    You have brought it on yourselves. So-called christians feign christian ethics while violating every code of decency. And now we see that they will even support a child molester in order to pass their favorite tax plan. Christians? What a joke!!! Using a word or thumping a bible doesn't change anything. Evil is evil.

    Fake christians have been exposed and there is no hiding behind titles or the claim of family values any more.
     
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    My first agenda is to take the children away from religious extremists.

    My life was seriously screwed up by religion and it is a form of child abuse. It is time to pay the piper. No more brainwashing and terrorizing children with tales of eternal torture.

    I would further advise the children of religious extremists to sue their parents for what they have done. No court of law could ignore the child abuse that is common in religion. Once exposed we will be coming. See you in court.

    In some States, religious extremists are marrying children as young as 11!!! What more proof is needed?!?!
     
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    Are you serious, is this really happening in the US?
     
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    Look it up! The age requirement can be and is waved for religious beliefs in 23 States.

    In one case, the 11 yo child was married off to a man from her church who had raped her.

    Is it surprising that "christians" would elect a child molester rather than a liberal
     
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    ****ing Sickening.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/child-marriage-in-the-us.518471/
     
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    Were you raised with religion? Put yourself in their place. You can barely think for yourself and you are told that you either obey and love god, or you will burn in the fires of hell for all eternity - suffering more than we can even imagine, forever!!!

    Holy sht!!! PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!

    It can take most of a life to get over that. I ditched religion for good in my 20s but I had to put a gun to my head and try to pull the trigger to really get over it - when I was in my late 40s. It's funny how staring into the barrel of a gun can bring clarity. In a moment, half a lifetime of brainwashing was washed away.
     
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    No, I was lucky, my dad was a very rare agnostic when I grew up. My big tussle with the religious came from JW shunning a 14 year old girl after she was raped. Their "elders" interviewed her and decided it was her fault, then they told her son (the result of the rape) he would burn in hell because he was born out of wedlock. I nearly did time for my reaction when they told that 5 year old boy that.
     
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    Yes, I think Muslims want this and in their native countries, it happens all the time.
     
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    I voted "no". I simply do not see "threat" to Christians, per se, from atheists. By contrast, it could be argued that Islam is a clear and present danger to atheists! "Unbelievers" (Infidels) should be mistreated and murdered by true-believing Muslims, according to the dictates found in their 'holy book', the Quran. But, the same Islamic commandments would apply to the 'treatment' of Christians, too....

    American atheists are usually little more than benign nihilists who believe in nothing except the oddly-unstructured concept that 'everything that is has always been, is now, and always will be'.... Such people are rarely a 'danger' to anyone but themselves as they meander their way through an essentially meaningless few years on this planet with the rest of us. :lonely:
     
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    Hitler was not aligned with Muslims and Muslims do not see Hitler as a hero. Worry about your Christians who see Hitler as a hero ...tens of thousands of them. Oh silly me those neo-Nazis were probably Muslims in disguise. I bet you don’t think you have a bigoted bone in your body
     
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    And are you happy that the laws of the States allow that?
    What age do you think people should be allowed to marry?
    16 years old is the absolute minimum allowed in the UK, which I think is right.
     
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    OK, here's what I think. I think there are a lot of people, mainly atheists who consider Christians their largest threat, who want to paint Christianity as having more "religious extremists" than any other religion. And they give Islam a free pass because most of their followers are from exotic countries. Let me tell you, almost all devout worshipers of Islam are "religious extremists."
     
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