Don to despots......you can kill journalists if you buy our weapons.

Speaking of buying influence and favours.The most corrupted organisation in the USA is the Clinton Foundation.They took the money from tyrants, journalist killets etc...No problem.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html

The kingdom of Saudi Arabia donated more than $10 million. Through a foundation, so did the son-in-law of a former Ukrainian president whose government was widely criticized for corruption and the murder of journalists. A Lebanese-Nigerian developer with vast business interests contributed as much as $5 million.

 

What are you leveraging for? Do you want them to do something?

I'd fly to KSA with the Saudi ambassador and in person demand to know what happened.

Clearly one killing is not going to break a crucial alliance in the ME, a region where trillions have been spent and millions of lives lost - the question is - what's an appropriate consequence?

Loss of their consulate seems reasonable.

 

The radical left is not interested in whats best for America

And would not care even if they did destroy the US-Saudi alliance

 

My government is currently discussing the consequences and steps with the EU partners! The G-7 ministers have already made an announcement.

I'm not pleased about it ... but the jerk at the White House has already made it clear that $ 10 billion business is more important than this dead journalist and the violation of just about nearly every value the US stands for and normally demands to stand for in the world.

 

Talk is cheap.Be specific.What actions have the German government taken agaist Saudis and damaged the German national and economic interest?I answer it for you, none...It is highly hypocritical to criticise others for doing nothing when you did exactly the same.Nothing.

 

LOL People acting like this is something new and never before seen. There was a major intelligence breach which lead to virtually all assets in China being imprisoned or executed a few years ago. Everyone knows what goes on in North Korea so how exactly Saudi Arabia any different? No President is going to rock the boat when it comes to certain countries and Saudi Arabia is on that list.

 

Your ****ing country is building power plants in Iran. So **** off.

 

Are you surprised about the Chinese massive scale executions of U.S assets across China few years ago?You shouldn"t be.Democratic senator Feinstein"s driver has been spying for China over a decade and she had access to some serious information regarding the U. S national security.

 

Until now they have not done, correct ... will they do in future? No idea ... could be or could not be, I can't say!

If this what I request from the is hypocritical here ... May I then get a legitimate laugh and being allowed to tell the US to shut up if the US suddenly plays the moralist with someone else, like Iran for example, and say or do something if Iran does something as bad as the Saudis do now?

 

Nothing New Here.
Move along.

Consider weapons sold to Latin America, the Shah of Iran, etc. in the name of
FREEDOM and thank the Lord you ain't communists.

It's the way.


Idea: Stay out of moral decisions by other nations.
Let Turkey and Saudi Arabia manage their affairs.


Let's go after China and their "slave labor" Apple products factories!


If not now, when
If not , who.
If not , why

 

Thats almost the whole story

We need the Saudi government for military, political and economic reasons that are far more important than a dead muslim brotherhood fanatic

 

Back to the OP.

Yes it seems that Trump will turn a blind eye to a murder committed by a bunch of Arab *&^&%$#%$ because he does not want $B110.00 taken away from the USA and perhaps spent in China or Russia instead.

The God almighty dollar runs the World.....right and wrong play no part in it.

Gee, despite ANZUS, what price Australia Donald? I'd like to know.

 

Ok, accepted!

But ... woe you Americans playing anywhere else in the world, where $ 10 million has no influence, the moralist in terms of comparable or similar evil things and accusing the perpetrators etc. The right you have lost with this thing for all time ...

 

Which country is so clean that it has “the right” to lecture the US?

Not yours I wager

 

Wrong question: Is the US clean enough to have the right to lecture others in the world about such things? For sure not I wager!

 

I asked you first

Is your country so historically clean that it can lecture the US?

 

The Federal Republic of Germany is ... the complete German history taken not ... but be aware to throw stones on us, because even counting the Nazi crimes and having started the WW2 by Germany ... you are sitting in a very thin glassy green house due to a bunch of not much lesser evil crimes having done in your history!

 

Just using the post nazi republic, Germany is doing business with russia even though putin murders journalists also

 

And where is the difference in making business with the USA in comparison to make business with the US please?
Humanity and human rights? Honesty? Democratic values? US = land of freedom?

May I have a quick laugh?

 

Laugh all you want to

The entire world is a cesspool are you are part of it

Since WWII Germany has benefited from Americas protection as has most of the world

But now you dont like us anymore

So be it

I think you will like what happens without America even less

 

Apart from the fact that we had paid very dearly for your protection ... is often overlooked in the US and we are talking about $ 300 million a year ... were we as frontline state the nuclear playground in a war where not only soviet missiles would have exlded, but also US one ... and not to forget US toys as atomic landmines placed to close and defend the so called Fulda Gap.

It's not about being ungrateful Mac ... because we were and are grateful for it ... but no one wants us Germans to change our laws and start having own nuclear weapons for our own protection ... especially you in the US do not want this! So here we are talking about one of you in the US wanted dependence of us as far as your nuclear protection is concerned too.

The problem is simply that we have grown up and are no longer willing to submit to your will in general, acting against our own interests, etc.
You are not used to that, but it will be time for you to learn it and accept it and respect everything ... as you expect us to respect you!

 

In this case America is not asking anything from you

Other than that you butt out of our affairs

How we react to saudi arabia is none of your business

We are still entangled by NATO

If germans want to join russia instead or become the teutonic caliphate thats unfortunate but its your choice

 

I'm not sure what you mean. The US is still the world's biggest economy, by far. Bush did damage the image of the US. We had mostly recovered from it, though. I think it's pretty obvious that Trump has damaged our image. He does this every time he opens his mouth in the international stage. I shudder to think what he could do to make it more evident.

 

What does that reply have to do with the post you are responding to?

 

It doesn't matter whether is a republican or a democrat president in the office,the U.S foreign policy makers have always been pandering to Saudis.You"ve been taking cheap shots at Trump;Clintons are exactly the same, if not the worse.Their love for money is well known. For example,Saudis were sponsoring ISIS and Hillary at the same time.Hillary knrew it and still took the money from the Saudis.The money destroyed U.S politics.