DONALD TRUMP JR., SENTIENT POND SCUM, IS SELLING T-SHIRTS MOCKING THE FATAL ALEC BALDWIN SHOOTING

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  1. Polydectes

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    I'm not politicizing anything this isn't political.

    He shot somebody he killed somebody. It isn't murder at least I don't think it is but it's a crime.
     
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    The public is going to make a spectacle out of it they do it all the time that's what they do.
     
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    Again, didn't poke fun at the dead but at Baldwin who is fair game and should have known better.
     
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    You failed. Don't you think the family of the deceased has feelings?
     
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    As you know......"an eye for an eye" make both go blind "
    (in ref: to Robert's comment.
     
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    Mocking Baldwin....is mocking the incident and thus mocking her death........ and her family.

    Her family has shown good form by staying out of the media circus. But they are suffering their loss just the same.
     
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    Where was this ideology every time the democrats parade the victims family around? Why are they not doing that now? What makes these ones less important?
     
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    If he had called Obama or Biden’s kids psychos and “Beavus and Butthead” I would not be surprised if those kids later took a cheap shot at Baldwin. Seems fair no matter who is involved.
     
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    I don't blame Baldwin for having a loaded gun, he expects it to be empty or to have blanks in it. What I do wonder is who was he shooting at? Were they filming a seine or was he playing with it, shooting at people? Even a gun with blanks can hurt people if your close enough and it didn't sound to me these two who got shot were part of the actors. Sounds like he was being his usual ass and shooting at people.
     
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    He shot the cinematographer. Likely it was a 'shooting at the camera to simulate the victims viewpoint' shot. Its unlikely we'll ever actually see the footage to find out for sure.
     
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    Throttle back a gear. I'm not a Democrat and I'm not upset (I generally don't get upset as a rule).

    I don't care about Baldwin, this incident or this topic. I posed a question to get a better understanding of what you are talking about. Yes, I'm sorry somebody died and somebody else was injured but there are countless people dying every single day from doing stupid sh!t. There is no cure for stupidity regardless of which aisle it's in in the political arena. Now, THAT does bother me. We are fighting amongst ourselves over nonsense and should be trying to find pathways of negotiation and mitigation before the rest of world hones in on our division.
     
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    that is my own suspicion. This incident did not seem to happen during a filming of a scene..........or did it?? Why was the victim in the scene.....if a scene was being filmed?? The chap who was injured .......was apparently injured by the same bullet. .......So why was he there??
     
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    It was a rehearsal. There was not even a need for blanks in the pistol.

    Apparently there were hundreds of live rounds on the set. There should not have been any live rounds.

    It was a real gun, not a prop gun. Anytime, a person is handed a gun, they should check to see whether it is loaded. Baldwin was ultimately at fault both as producer and as the one holding the gun and who pulled the trigger.
     
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    So.....why was there live ammunition the set to begin with?? A lot of carelessness took lace here ..........

    Protocols were broken starting with having live ammunition on the set.

    Does not sound like a tightly run operation.
     
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    Yes, they were filming a scene. Baldwin was practicing how to draw the gun for the shot when the gun went off. The "chap" as you call him that was shot in the collar bone was the director, Joel Souza, and the woman shot in the stomach was the director of photography -- both are crucial to any scene being shot that is principal to the story.

    What this is turning into is an indictment of non-union productions, as they appeared to be making a lot of cost-cutting decisions which affected the talent pool they hired. This was just not a well-oiled production. It had problems from the start, going union, then cutting back on the union crews when they became alarmed over safety. We're only just scratching the surface here.
     
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    There's still some confusion regarding this, since what the movie industry calls "live rounds" are basically blanks, and dummy bullets with an actual bullet have no gunpowder.

    What was unexpected is what we have just recently learned of the crew participating in plinking with these same weapons using actual bullets. That's highly unusual and not a common practice, but it does show there was a high degree of indifference to safety protocols at the production level.
     
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    No one seems t o know why there was live ammunition on the set.........when it should not have been there at all.....

    Do actors practice these shots with weapons during the scenes?? or should they practice them in a safe zone ??

    It seems like there was a lot of confusion and disorganization there too. What you describe probably contributed to both.
     
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    Is it worth noting that 'pond scum' (waterborn photosynthetic algae) actually make most of the oxygen we need to live?
     
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    Yes, they usually do practice with a real weapon, just NOT loaded. They need to feel comfortable with the weight and remember this is a western, so there was probably some degree of twirling the gun and the like. That's not unusual. What is unusual is for the armorer not to be with those guns all the time when they were on the set. While I can understand why the 1st AD (assistant director) would be the one to hand the gun to the actor, the armorer should be there too. That chain of custody should be very short, and whether or not the armorer was present is still not clear..

    I've worked both union and non-union movies, and there are just some things that are common sense, but when things go bad, it's because of a bad director or a bad producer. That doesn't mean Baldwin, who is credited as a producer on this project, is guilty because there are many producers on a movie, each specializing in a particular aspect of the movie, and most of the time, when well-known actors are credited as producers, it's more of a selling point than an actual working role. It could in fact fall on the production manager, since they are in charge of the actual production and its logistics.
     
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    Are what the shirts saying a lie?
     
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    All that said NEVER POINT A FIREARM AT A PERSON loaded or not.
     
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    Nice to hear from someone who has experience in the field........and the knowledge. I Appreciate your explanations..(and I am learning a lot ;-)

    Thank you...
     
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    And you would have never gotten this historic image following that "advice" in the movies.
     
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    Yeah, and he's always been so courteous, kind, and, so sympathetic to lefties in trouble. :rolleyes:
     
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    Almost as despicable as Alec Baldwin's comments on cops. Alec is a scumbag whose incompetence and laziness with regards to safety directly caused the death of an innocent person. He deserves everything coming his way.... including a conviction for involuntary manslaughter. No F's to give for Alec, none at all. Feel really horrible that an innocent person had to pay with their life for his gross and criminal negligence.
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